Roy Moore has currently been suspended and will possibly be removed from office completely soon! I'm very excited to see what happens. Right now three of our state's top officials are in very very hot water. Governor Bentley because he had an affair with a staffer, Speaker of the House Mike Hubbard for breaking ethics laws that HE WROTE and got passed into law, and Chief Justice Moore for openly telling districts in Alabama to defy the Supreme Court and refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

It's definitely an interesting time here. And of course this state is deeply, deeply going to Trump in November. I wonder if there is a pattern......

The kids life is ruined whether it's 1 day or 20 years

Oh definitely. But maybe it will get some people to pay more attention to our criminal justice system in general, because it doesn't take a whole lot of investigating to see how completely broken it is right now.

And like I said, I think the sentence given was too light. I'd be in favor of a much harsher sentence in this case.

Jesus, I'm reeling from that.

And yet the sentence was still remarkably lenient. Brock deserves no leniency at all from what I've seen.

It's a tough problem. Mandatory sentences are a bad idea, elected judges is a worse one. In the UK the sentence could be appealed for being too lenient which is at least some pressure for judges not to play favorites (or more commonly, treat some groups extremely badly)

Right. "Tough on crime" is code word for "throw the book at black people."

It's not ruined. He can recover and have a good life eventually. The rapist can accept what he did, take his punishment and become a good person. Far easier for him than for the victim who has real on-going trauma to deal. She sound like an amazing person but she cant just chose to forget or sleep soundly etc.

You know, you could make a good argument that the lenient sentence is actually the reason his life will possibly be much more difficult than it otherwise would have been. If he got a reasonable sentence, and this case never caught fire and became a national story, he could have done his time. Slipped quietly under the radar, and simply gone back to school at a different school after and continued where he left off (sans the swimming scholarship, obviously).

Now that this has become such an issue, you're right. His name will forever be connected to this in a much bigger way. I still don't buy the fact that his life is ruined. If this judge is willing to let him off with 90 days, you don't think he's going to be able to convince some school board to let him in? Even with the help of his dad and all his influential white friends? Give me a break. He can go from school to school to school, he doesn't even have to go with the luck of the draw as he did here. Just one school needs to let him in. I refuse to believe he'll be unable to get into school after this.

LOL

Normally I agree that fly does this, but he's 100% on point here. Handwringing over some poor kid whose life is RUINED just because he got a little rapey while also insisting that the girl can just get over it because hey at least she wasn't a child is completely disgusting posting and there are some obvious conclusions about the poster that can be drawn.

It's a very good point that the sex offenders list is far more punishing than the time. But more importantly makes it so that good outcomes can't happen. Because you can't get off the list no matter how much you behave. Sometimes this leads people to just be like "**** it" and commit the crime again because everyone's given up on them. You have to have a light at the end of the tunnel to curb the behavior.

I would rather see him do more time, say 8-10 times more time than he got, but the list should expire after ten years or so.

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Go ahead and take things out of context to be self righteous bro

In reply to einbert, who says he even needs school? Just start a business and save the money. He's gonna be an outcast anyways.

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I see you have read Alex's previous posts on the subject.

1- No, it's not a good point. I haven't seen anything ITT suggesting any idea that having to register as a sex offender has greater long term consequences than incarceration. Frankly, this talk just feels like you guys putting yourselves in the shoes of the accused, and I dunno- I'd hope that would be inconceivable for you.

2- There aren't "good outcomes" from a sexual assault FFS. There's a reason sex offenders are functionally branded for life, and a good one. There's a very high rate of recidivism with sex offenders. **** their outcomes.

Show me the "context" that makes this post not completely horrible:

**** I'd rather serve a year than be put on the list

That she can have a fulfilling life with counseling and support? And that sexual abuse to a young child is more damaging?

I'll admit I'm not an expert on what kind of trauma can be induced while unconscious

Also- true or not, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton have both been accused of rape. It's sure slowed them down. 10 years from now there's a very real chance the narrative won't be "he should have been locked up for longer" but "he just got drunk and fingered a chick, it wasn't a bit deal, he only got 6 months".

We can sure hope that wouldn't be the case, but again- you're ass dog ignorant if you don't realize that his background is going to be incredibly helpful in keeping this from ruining his life. Being rich and white is still an incredible win in this country.

You need to stop talking about things you don't understand. You've moved from apologizing for the guy to what, telling her to get over it? Did you read her statement?

Never apologized for the guy and all I said was that her life is not over

oh wow this went pure aids very quickly

Took a look at this thread, it was exactly what I expected, and noping out of here.

But his is?

Do some reading on how trauma works and impacts people. It's one of the biggest things people don't understand when talking about rape.