I think it's a conversation that's been had for a long time and can continue to be had but in the context of the sentencing yeah I think it's a little bit off the topic to bring up

These are valid questions to be asked But jumping to social class or race is a reach and probably more serving someone's political agenda

Right. His social class shouldn't be part of the sentencing, and neither should his race. But to sit here and say that that is the case under our current system, well there are plenty of actual statistics that can completely wreck that argument.

Uh no. His race and class are EXACTLY why this happened. He had people from all over writing nice (and horrible, and ignorant) character witness statements about him that the judge took to heart. That doesn't happen if you're not surrounded by people of influence. It's a classic example of "watch whiteness work/good to be white".

You are too ignorant to be having this conversation. Why don't you take the rest of the thread off and let the grownups try and make some salad out of your ****ass thread.

Right, so if you can address the question of "why exactly do the circumstances of this case merit leniency for Brock Turner?" that would be great. Why do YOU think that he should have gotten a lenient sentence?

I'm assuming no apology from the rapist since a possible civil trial is on the horizon? I think, assuming its admissible in the future, an apology + admission of guilt would be gg for the civil claim later.

Someone might correct me and say those statements wouldn't be admissible though.

A civil trial would probably be pointless since this kid likely has no money.

I don't think the six months was right I'm just not outraged at it

I trust that the judge knows what he's doing and had a reason to do it besides the kid is white rich or an athlete

Personally I think he shoulda gotten 3 to 5 years

If I got outraged over every incredibly bad sentencing that took place in our state court system, in Alabama alone, I would be so consumed with rage 24/7 that I would have literally no energy or time left over to do anything else. But the truth is, it's outrageous. People have every right to be outraged.

OK, so you agree with literally everyone else ITT that the sentence was too light and he should have received several years in prison? Uhhhhhh maybe stop arguing the other side then?

Like you're arguing about what level of indignation is appropriate to express here? Like, "hey, I agree with you completely, but I think your indignation level needs to drop three or maybe even four points here."

Don't you have better things to do with your time than argue with people over what the appropriate level of outrage they feel over an outrageous news item?

If you trust every judge to "know what they're doing," you're in a lot of trouble.

ikes won't weigh in on this, or if he does he'll condemn Brock. It's like how the right wing media universally condemned that Charleston cop Slager in the Walter Scott killing. The facts of the case are so clear that not even ikes can defend them.

Now do you understand why your "U MAD?" posts are dumb?

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/da/news...er-links-click

The rapist was actually convicted of:

One of you Cali lawdogs want to tell the rest of us what the normal punishment for these are?

Of course his name is Brock. I grew up in Palo Alto with 1000s of Brock's and this doesn't surprise me in the least. Rich, entitled little brats always ran to their daddy to come up with an excuse.

Easy there chief. Remember, you're supposed to be the person in favor of tolerance and compassion.

Maybe it shouldn't matter, but the judge probably took this into consideration when he was handing down the sentence.

Again, I'm not defending this guy, he's a POS, I'm just pointing out that this guy is f*cked in a way he wouldn't have been before Google. Good luck finding someone willing to employ him or a school willing to admit him.

I hope the kid's butthole get a lot more than 20 minutes of action when he's in prison.

Agree with this. I also agree that sentences for most crimes are too long except for premeditated violence. Our whole punishment system and theories of punishment are medieval.

Automatic sex offender registry for just about anything without a second level of review is also insane and a total waste of resources and simply a new way to alienate people from society and force them into underground employment and underground lives, which simply perpetuates misery and lawlessness.

Was 6 months too little for this guy, probably. But I think it's better to err on the side of too little time than too much, if only due to the waste of state resources associated with imprisonment.

You agree that a rapist shouldn't have to have their future ruined because they raped someone?

and where was that said

Hahaha this thread is great with JudgeHoldem gradually working up the courage to try to MRAtard out that he thinks people are too "one sided" then IMMEDIATELY regretting that moment of honesty and walking it back as hard as he can.

hummmm....


She goes on, but the general idea is a mistaken idea of what rape is, with rape being characterized as that guy hiding in the bushes to jump out at women.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/broc...f-support.html