http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45685870.../#.TupT69TOy0E

Iranian engineer claiming they essentially jammed the drones communications then made the onboard gps think it was landing at it's home base when in reality it was landing in Iran. Claims it's a well known flaw by US military.

I have not followed this. Has any information come out that suggested if the drone was encrypted? If it was and the Iranians were able to over-ride this encryption, were in much bigger trouble than a missing drone. If the drone was encrypted, I doubt the veracity of the claim. I'm not an expert on encryption but I what I do know, with out access to another critical device its virtually impossible to crack. I could be wrong about this though.

They're working on encrypting them but I don't think they are yet. They've found footage from drones on laptops of militants before.

No, not the footage but the communication systems, which it is quite possible for them to encrypt. While it kind of hurts for them to know what we definitively looking at, any respectable Iranian analyst would already know that, so no real harm. The key is obviously the technology.

Found this.

So the uplink is encrypted but if you jam it then it tries to go home but since GPS isn't encrypted you can make it think it's going home when you're actually taking it somewhere else. Or something.

See this is where my knowledge is at a loss. If the communication system (i.e. radio control for simple understanding) is being jammed (if the Iranians have that capability), no one can communicate with it. They would have to communicate with the GPS to reprogram it to land somewhere else. Obviously the GPS is not independent of the communication device or it would not know its right from left. It would surprise me considerably if the Iranians were able to jam a device while at the same time reprogram it.

But what if the Chinese gave them the jamming capabilities/equipment. We know they have the technology and are allies with the Iranians.

I think you can only jam something or reprogram it but not both at the same time and this is what I meant. It would not surprise me to know they Iranians could jam something. It would not surprise me that the Iranians could reprogram something. It would surprise me if they could do both at the same time, which would of been needed from my understanding of how these things work.

If they had access to the communication system and were able to "drive" it, what was the need to jam it for? If a system is jammed, no one can utilize the jammed system.

**Just thinking out loud**

But what if the Drone has a default setting that if jammed it lands instead of "stalling" and crashing.

I would think it would not be in Iran right now.

wouldn't have to reprogram it, just have a stronger GPS signal locally I imagine. The GPS system would use the stronger local signal and then they could tell the drone it was a point X, 500 miles West of where it really was, and it would land 500 miles West of the Afghanistan base accordingly. No reprogramming needed. At least that's what some researchers say is one of the vulnerabilities of GPS.

So basically send it junk GPS signals and trick it into thinking it's actually landing at home when in reality it's landing in enemy territory.

That's a hell of a flaw.

Whats funny is, a UAV is nothing more than a remote control plane with a camera on it. How sophisticated can the tech be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works

Beat out Mattel imo

US District Court rules Iran behind 9/11 lololol

Cannot be real.

The US is at war with Iran. The US has always been at war with Iran.

Yeah seriously 1984 immediately popped into my head.

I thought the US gov had special, high security, extra accurate GPS that only they could use...

The rhetoric ratchets up:

I wish this penis wagging contest would get over so gas prices can drop again.

Jesus ****ing christ.

Wow, so they did it. Thankfully, I fully trust my Democrat administration and believe that we should attack Iran, because accidentally killing someone via collateral damage when vigilante killing someone you strongly suspect of heinous crimes w/o due process is a lot more morally defensible than being willing to allow the terrorism and murder of many people across Battlefield: Homeland as "not my problem".

Still confirming, but 99.99% sure not real.

PR Newswire is not a news site. It is a for-profit press release site. Anybody can release anything there so long as they pay.

Edit: I can find absolutely nothing but truthers and tinfoil on this.

Edit Again: Washinton Times: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...c/30/what-now/

Still looking...

Final Edit: I can't completely debunk it, but I'm calling bull**** anyway. The only source I've found for any of this is that one PR Newswire thing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...able-for-9-11/

Judge: Iran, Taliban, al Qaeda liable for 9/11

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...PCP_story.html

NY judge rules Iran, Taliban, al-Qaida were liable in Sept. 11 attacks; damages not yet set

I dunno man, something is definitely not right in this.

Back-of-the-phone-book, ambulance-chasing law firm...
Self-serving press releases...
Testimony by "counsel to the 911 commission", who is loved by the truthers, acted as counsel on immigration issues only, because that is her background...
Ruling released right before the x-mass holiday and relegated to page C17...
Searches for the case result in bombardment of conspiracy theory web sites...
I'm putting on my own tinfoil hat and formatting my post like RedManPlus...

Something is wrong. Something is missing.

Hypotheses:
a) Basically a frivolous lawsuit that squeaked through and means nothing
b) Cause for war is being quietly manufactured behind the scenes
c) I'm not saying it's aliens...
d) It's aliens

I really have no idea what to make of this.