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02-01-2018 , 07:13 PM

#101

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Well, it was invented there and its Polsby-Popper score is not great, but maybe Maryland is the king of Democratic gerrymandering.

02-19-2018 , 07:03 PM

#102

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03-04-2018 , 04:16 PM

#103

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https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/st...54435275673601

03-05-2018 , 01:59 AM

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i wonder what woulda happened if hillary tried to play tit for tat with trump instead of playing the restrained diplomat angle. like if some random reporter mentioned emails she goes off like, "EMAILS?! emails are a total and complex hoax hitjob, trump is a traitorous puppet and idk why obama hasn't locked him up already, i expect my opponent to be in jail before election day, as a top lawyer with 40 years of government experience, that i can tell you."

i mean why not? obviously tight passive gets dominated by loose aggressive we've known this for 15 years now. but what always beats a 3-bet? a 4-bet. and that'll never change.

Uhhh

03-05-2018 , 02:31 AM

#105

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I believe the unspoken assumption is that Trump 3bets light.

03-05-2018 , 03:01 AM

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He never folds though

03-05-2018 , 07:37 PM

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4-betting light solved no limit holdem forever, iirc

03-05-2018 , 09:45 PM

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I don't think she's planning to run again but I think we missed out on potentially the most qualified viable candidate for POTUS since... uh... maybe a hundred year?

I am not saying she'd be a favorite to be a GOAT without outperforming lofty expectations but holy jebus was she qualified by any objective measure.

03-09-2018 , 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by grizy

Based on resume prior to becoming POTUS, I think I'd put George H.W. Bush ahead. Even if one disagrees, it's hard say she was significantly more qualified than he was.

03-09-2018 , 11:24 AM

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Nixon also had quite a resume prior to winning.

03-09-2018 , 08:42 PM

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I thought Hilary stood out because she spent so much time in the White House as a key decision maker in two administrations. But yes, Nixon and Bush I had quite the resumes too.

03-09-2018 , 09:33 PM

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I don't think Hillary stands out that much and I don't think wife of the president really gets on your resume, but while vice president is good for resume neither Bush or Nixon were very powerful vice presidents I think.

03-09-2018 , 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

You could take the 8 years of VP off of Bush and he would still be highly qualified by any reasonable standard.

03-10-2018 , 06:47 AM

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The term „wife of the president“ is fair for a stay-at-home First Lady like Melania. I don‘t think it is for someone like Hillary who was actively engaged in the legislative process and during her tenure at the white house got a look under the hood so to speak. Having that kind of insight on how the government actually works can be valuable.

03-10-2018 , 05:46 PM

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ya I was still a teenager for the Clinton years but I remember the jokes that it was really Hillary running the show. hell, that was a main talking point of the republicans during the reelection campaign.

03-10-2018 , 06:53 PM

#116

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In fact, they called Bill's health care proposal "Hillarycare"

03-10-2018 , 06:55 PM

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She was tasked with drafting it.

03-10-2018 , 07:20 PM

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And ****ed it up. Badly.

03-10-2018 , 07:20 PM

#119

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I'm older than any of you. I know about Hillary's involvement in health care, the crime bill and such. Still, it was not a high ranking position, had no official power and gets at least as much exaggeration as part of her resume as it does for her responsibility for BC's policies. It's a bit of each.

03-11-2018 , 06:52 AM

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You guys remember those "Impeach Clinton and her husband too!" bumper stickers?

03-12-2018 , 08:33 PM

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i have just received STUNNING evidence from very credible sources that donald j trump *actually* isn't the legitimate president because he's not a legal US citizen because he doesn't have a birth certificate because he was cloned in a lab from one of adolph hitler's genital warts plus he's a pedophile. and i'm gonna release that evidence, you know, very shortly.

03-12-2018 , 11:59 PM

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Hillary Clinton: I won the places that are 'dynamic, moving forward,' while Trump's campaign 'was looking backwards'

Hillary Clinton recalled her loss in the 2016 US presidential election during a speech at the India Today Conclave 2018 in Mumbai on Saturday.

"If you look at the map of the United States, there's all that red in the middle where Trump won," Clinton said. "I win the coast, I win, you know, Illinois and Minnesota, places like that."

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"I won the places that represent two-thirds of America's gross domestic product," Clinton continued. "So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole campaign, 'Make America Great Again,' was looking backwards."

Clinton described what she believed to be the underlying message of Trump's 2016 campaign: "You didn't like black people getting rights, you don't like women, you know, getting jobs," Clinton said. "You don't want, you know, see that Indian American succeeding more than you are. Whatever your problem is, I'm going to solve it," she said.