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View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of September?
Jefferson Beleaguered Sessions III
7 19.44%
John Kelly
3 8.33%
Kjrstyn Njielessen
0 0%
Wilbur Ross
0 0%
Ben Carson
0 0%
Rudy Giuliani
10 27.78%
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
4 11.11%
Kellyanne Conway
2 5.56%
Rod Rosenstein
3 8.33%
Write-in
7 19.44%

09-04-2018 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pyatnitski
Yes, I agree, "hands are tied" was too strong a metaphor. I was trying to say that the problems go way deeper than just what Kyi decides, and that it could even be the case that she was somewhat powerless to do anything meaningful about it. However she probably has immense personal responsibility (and absolutely has some), and it's fact that a government in her name has stoked tensions to the point of genocide, so f*** her. It just triggers me a little bit when such a horrendous and complex issue is reported on a lot of the time solely through the prism of "maybe we should take our trophy back!" (Not what you posted, just generally).
nah it's all good, i think you're making a good point re: the power dynamics that are entrenched within the government and ASSK's limited role in calling shots, so to speak.

the whole situation is just sad and ****ty because you have a lower class that is being marginalized and exercising their frustration in violent ways, and then you have a privileged class that is responding by violently beating them back some more. at some point it just devolves into a destructive game of tit for tat whose only clear end is the full ethnic cleansing of the marginalized class.

meanwhile you've got former political prisoner ASSK who talks a big game re: economic and political reforms, which in theory could help the marginalized underclass, but fails to deliver any meaningful progress and watches silently as the cycle of violence and despair spirals out of control at the hands of her military. she has famously written about the corrupting influence of fear and power, and now herself is an embodiment of it.

literally nobody is going to do anything about it and all these people will flee or be killed for basically no good reason.
09-04-2018 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
This is a disturbing article: https://www.gq.com/story/sperm-count-zero





But this is just overblown hype, right? Doesn’t look that way:



Evidently the cause is reasonably certain, chemicals. Oh, and another happy tidbit, these effects are carried forward through offspring.



So, we are heading to a Handmaids Tale future?

Dovetail that with sociopolitical trends and, yeah, sounds right.


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Under his eye.
09-04-2018 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Yeah I thought you said you didn't but "buzzed" isn't really used about alcohol here in Straya.

Blade Runner 2049 is awesome. One of the best movies I've seen in the last year or two. Requires a good screen and sound system though.

Alien: Covenant sucks, such a stupid movie. One of those movies where character motivations make no sense and you're constantly baffled and annoyed at their behaviour. This is from a highly positive review, in fact this guy put it in his top 5 films of the year:



I'm not sure he's seen the other Alien movies? I don't remember anyone doing anything particularly stupid in the first one, and it wasn't any kind of fever dream, one of the things that was great about it was how grounded and real the world felt. The second one, the military guys are way too gung ho, but that's their characters, it was sort of the point of the movie that nobody would pay attention to Ripley about the danger they were in. IMO the quote is just very poor excuse-making for the fact that Covenant characters constantly do brain-dead things for no discernable reason. It's not some sort of surrealist masterpiece, it's just poorly written.

Glad to see some love for Blade Runner 2049, I had a long day off the other day so I put it on (it’s 164 minutes long...) and was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it. I don’t really love the original and honestly thought this iteration was better, maybe a lot better, and was fully engaged despite the long run time.
09-04-2018 , 10:54 AM
It's way better. The original has some good qualities, it's a great looking film, but it's dull, the pacing is so slow, it has a number of other issues. It's one of those movies that is more of an important landmark in cinema than it is actually enjoyable to watch.

2049 is really immersive, took me to a different world in a way that not many movies do anymore.
09-04-2018 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
This is the fallacy of listing three true things in a row so that someone might just think the fourth is right.
Bob,

I'll add that perhaps what you described is almost a 100% requirement to become a world leader. Maybe the levels of ruthlessness, ambition and moral flexibility required to win a house primary aren't the same as required to be head of state.

Also, did McCain vote for a bunch of stuff he didn't want? I think I heard he voted 80% with Trump. He was a Republican. Most of the Trump stuff was stuff he wanted.

Your post was a lot of irrelevant stuff to just say you don't like AOC.
09-04-2018 , 11:03 AM
I assume most people have seen Arrival (also directed by Villeneuve, the director of Blade Runner 2049) but Sicario was a really good film as well, in a different genre. I should check out his other films.
09-04-2018 , 11:23 AM
The original Aliens were all fine imo. Prometheus began the era of characters doing unbelievably stupid things to further the plot. (Note: never seen an AvP)

I will check out 2049 and Finest Hours.

I couldn't hang with Predator so I watched How the Universe Works and fell asleep to Mike Rowe's soothing narration.
09-04-2018 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I assume most people have seen Arrival (also directed by Villeneuve, the director of Blade Runner 2049) but Sicario was a really good film as well, in a different genre. I should check out his other films.
Definitely give enemy and prisoners a chance. I didnt love arrival.
09-04-2018 , 11:37 AM
Straight Outta Compton is great for the music if nothing else
09-04-2018 , 11:53 AM
I didn't love Arrival either, it's a little slow, but it's a good film for sure and great looking. Villeneuve has this immersive style, great use of color.
09-04-2018 , 12:38 PM
I ... honestly can't tell if this guy is for real or not





Spoiler:
09-04-2018 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The original Aliens were all fine imo. Prometheus began the era of characters doing unbelievably stupid things to further the plot.
wat

did you actually watch the first one? Everything they did was dumb. **** that cat, get the **** out of there!
09-04-2018 , 12:44 PM
yeah but Ripley learned from her mistakes #NukeFromOrbit
09-04-2018 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Bob,

I'll add that perhaps what you described is almost a 100% requirement to become a world leader. Maybe the levels of ruthlessness, ambition and moral flexibility required to win a house primary aren't the same as required to be head of state.

Also, did McCain vote for a bunch of stuff he didn't want? I think I heard he voted 80% with Trump. He was a Republican. Most of the Trump stuff was stuff he wanted.

Your post was a lot of irrelevant stuff to just say you don't like AOC.
As originally drafted, it was actually “your fave politician would sell you out to [opposing political force] in a heartbeat,” but I decided that an AOC example would make the point more effectively. I obviously disagree with AOC’s positions, but she’s objectively a great standard-bearer for the cause. I like her a lot more than Bernie. The point is not that AOC is a Bad People rather than a Good People, it’s that viewing any politician (including human rights activists who have won actual Nobel Peace Prizes) through the Good/Bad lens is wrong-headed.
09-04-2018 , 12:59 PM
i hope mustard sues nike and kap for those burns. poor guy can’t even go to work now. they took his job!
09-04-2018 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
wat

did you actually watch the first one? Everything they did was dumb. **** that cat, get the **** out of there!
“They do stupid things” is a dumb criticism of any horror film, bc it’s pretty much a standard trope of the genre. Pretty much every horror film has someone doing something dumb that gets them killed, including the first Alien.
09-04-2018 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i intended to post itt, but i found a spot in the recently bumped pope francis thread where i felt it would be more appropriate, so i'm just gonna quote it here. my cousin (worked for a newspaper in cambodia before "recent" govt crackdowns, eventually gave up journalism for law school) has asked me to read and share this article far and wide.

edit: the arrested journalists were given 7 year prison sentences this morning



anybody who knows anything about aung san suu kyi's background should be floored at how unbelievably tragic this story/situation is
Not too long ago, I was talking to a Burmese-British woman about what's going on there. Basically, Aung San Suu Kyi is a powerless figurehead that represents the illusion of democracy. The truth is that the military still has enough political power to oust her if she does something they don't like. Unfortunately, this ethnic cleansing is actually supported by the majority of the Burmese people and for her to oppose it would result in her being removed from power and a military junta taking the country over once again.

In short, she either stands up for the Rohingya and gets forcibly removed from power with the ethnic cleansing continuing under military rule or keeps silent and maintains the thin veil of democracy that exists there by staying in power.
09-04-2018 , 01:14 PM
I don't want to look at those feet again, but they would go well on that Nike sacrifice everything ad.
09-04-2018 , 01:16 PM
lol
09-04-2018 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
As originally drafted, it was actually “your fave politician would sell you out to [opposing political force] in a heartbeat,” but I decided that an AOC example would make the point more effectively. I obviously disagree with AOC’s positions, but she’s objectively a great standard-bearer for the cause. I like her a lot more than Bernie. The point is not that AOC is a Bad People rather than a Good People, it’s that viewing any politician (including human rights activists who have won actual Nobel Peace Prizes) through the Good/Bad lens is wrong-headed.
Disagree. Good/Bad is too black and white, but values and principles are incredibly important. Checks and balances, transparency, limits on power, and systems that prevent corruption are more important. Who is elected at all should be far less important, but still judging their values and sincerity are important if you hope to predict what they will do in the future and when not many people are watching.

You like her personally more than you like Bernie? Because politically I bet she's more radical or at least open to being radical. Is it just easier to like her now because she has much less power?
09-04-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
wat

did you actually watch the first one? Everything they did was dumb. **** that cat, get the **** out of there!
Yeah dude - no one thinks Alien is a good movie.

It's my favorite movie and I actually think it's the most perfect movie ever made. People get irrational about pets.

Nothing in Alien is 1/1000th as dumb as the characters in Prometheus. Oh we're the absolute best of the best scientists earth has to offer, but lets get shiftaced and break ****, and taunt alien cobra-looking things a foot from their face.
09-04-2018 , 02:09 PM
I understand that the characters in Prometheus were Very Dumb but somehow that was just part of its charm for me.
09-04-2018 , 02:14 PM
I was angry about Prometheus. Just lazy writing imo.

I'd probably be angry about Covenant too but I really want to see the imagery and slow build to everyone getting eaten. It's a tough call for me.
09-04-2018 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Disagree. Good/Bad is too black and white, but values and principles are incredibly important. Checks and balances, transparency, limits on power, and systems that prevent corruption are more important. Who is elected at all should be far less important, but still judging their values and sincerity are important if you hope to predict what they will do in the future and when not many people are watching.

You like her personally more than you like Bernie? Because politically I bet she's more radical or at least open to being radical. Is it just easier to like her now because she has much less power?
AOC is at least 5x sexier than bernie
09-04-2018 , 02:26 PM
"I stand for the National Anthem"

gets both feet amputated

      
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