You don’t have to imagine the consequences of reducing working hours. You can just look at a country like France, which has taken steps in the direction you’re talking about (35 hour workweek, lots of vacation). The ruling class is fine, GDP is 2/3 what it is in the US, and people have lots of free time. And people actually do have fewer iPhones.

not to get too 'woke man' about it, but this is the kind of thing men do to women all the ****ing time and they get away with it because there's just enough plausible deniability to throw it back on the woman as 'overreacting', 'hysterical', 'sensitive' etc. this one has gained traction because he did it with a ton of cameras and millions of people watching.

imagine a man with power doing this to a woman without power without any cameras around. it happens constantly. what can the woman do in that situation? almost certainly, nothing. this guy should is rightfully getting hung out to dry, but this behavior isn't created in a vacuum, there are thousands of him.

What a ****ing creep

The whole part where she was performing was super weird, I watched a bit of it without sound, she is singing at a frickin funeral and Bill C is right behind her cheesing the entire time, talking to his left and right, just a big ass smile on his face. Its a funeral??!

Picking Sanders if McGahn isn't allowed.

I doubt anyone else gets the boot until after the midterms.

Everyone gets like $200/mo UBI, overtime starts at 35, min wage goes up to like $12/hr nationally tied to cost of living. Wait a few years and analyze the results.

You'd nearly think the vast majority of people making public statements about McCain's passing are being completely insincere or something.

Not a very scientific analysis. Historical GDP per capita chart for France looks pretty much exactly the same as for the UK and Germany.

So where we live capitalism and productivity are thriving and have left a lot of people with a lot of money. So what do we do? We bid up the price of housing until we spend so much money there that we need to get back on the treadmill.

Maybe changing overtime and minimum wage can change things, but I dunno if you can possibly a world where the standard of living is pretty high and people don't have to work much with all the competition people are in with each other for resources and to lower their own wages.

It’s more scientific than just making stuff up, but I agree it doesn’t truly prove anything. Worth noting though that GDP/c is higher in both UK and France by a meaningful amount.

kelly

? Higher in UK and France than what? You mean higher in the US than UK and France?

Aside from this, I don't think GDP is a good measure to gauge this. Not all economic activity is equal. BS jobs isn't a very detailed look at this, and it wasn't meant to be, but what it questions is a lot of "productivity" that I think does get measured as part of the GDP.

France does have more mobile phones per capita than the US. Apple has a smaller market share though.

Housing (in California anyway) and private higher education are interesting markets. The amount people will pay is pretty much every single cent they can get their hands on. Like if interest rates drop, housing prices immediately increase to compensate. Medical care is similar I think but insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals are part of the decision.

How many holidays does one get in the USA?

UK is around 28 days for first year of service, probably a bit higher in the round.

By law, 0. "Good" jobs give you 10 days a year.

Yeah and I'm saying outnumbering the owner class 1000-1 is the ultimate bargaining power of the workers. Eventually that majority can only get pushed so far before they revolt - either bloodily or bloodless.

Maybe the French aren't that into iPhones? Also maybe the guillotines are still a fresher memory in France.

Apparently if the US did this our GDP would plummet or something. Because science. Now get back to work hippie.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how if workers are twice as productive as 30 years ago and make pretty much the same money, but we cut their hours by 5-10 a week, that somehow tanks the economy.

All this would still be true if they raised OT to 45 hours a week and everyone started working 9 hours a day by convention. Same as it would still be true at 35.

I bet if we started executing 1 random billionaire per month we'd see some pretty spectacular progress on all sorts of fronts. No need for us plebes to get down in the weeds with specific policy details. Let them do the heavy lifting, or they get to play The Lottery 21st century-style.

They decided it was better to hire a million police officers, give them military equipment and build 6000 prisons and jails.

I know high school reading has been brought up in recent LC threads but we read nickel and dimed by Ehrenreich in Jr High. Probably the best thing I read for lasting impact.

10 days, the humanity.

Seriously.

10 days is Dickensian.