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Senate, House, Local Offices, and Propositions 2016 Thread! Senate, House, Local Offices, and Propositions 2016 Thread!

10-18-2016 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by adanthar
Interestingly, though, they have FL as very close.
I'm surprised FL is close...but only because the Dems picked a pretty bad candidate. Apparently he lied on a resume or about his resume or something (said he was a CPA, he's never worked as a CPA, said he's owned a small business, has never owned a small business, **** like that). Then there's Rubio who missed more senate votes than any senator in like ever, but he's got better name recognition obv and a good ground game. I think they are debating tonight on TV.
10-18-2016 , 05:32 PM
NYT article on California Prop 58, which would repeal a 1998 ballot measure that basically made public education English-only.
10-18-2016 , 05:37 PM
lol Schilling running against Elizabeth Warren in 2018

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...o-game-company

What an idiot.

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He said he's not scared to debate her, noting that the Red Sox defeated the Cleveland Indians when he was a player.

"I've beaten the real ones before so I'm not worried about that," the self-described conservative and Donald Trump supporter said, an apparent reference to Warren's claims of Native American heritage.
10-18-2016 , 05:47 PM
The more I read about FL's Amendment 1 the more astounded I am that it was ever put on the ballot. It's shockingly misleading. It's being pushed by utility companies and pretty much every critic says it was designed to and will in fact kill solar in FL but it's being sold as a "solar energy amendment."

As bad as FL gov can be at least the courts are usually pretty good in keeping misleading **** from becoming ballot initiatives, no idea what happened with this one.
10-19-2016 , 12:37 AM
In California, correct me if I'm mistaken, but YES on 62 and NO on 66 if you are against the Death Penalty and don't get those mixed up.

54 is interesting. It requires bills to be posted on the internet for 3 days for public comment before a vote. It seems like a good idea, but there are some arguments against. The Democratic Party and a few Unions are for it, but a very wide variety of people are against. (Green party, NAACP, Libertarians, Republicans, business, newspapers)

I'm leaning against. Really seems like power brokers in Cali are for it and everyone else is against.

I think I'm voting for Kamala Harris.

The state assembly rep in my district is a hard one for me. The Republican is a moderate (socially liberal - totally disavows Trump) and he lives on my block and he's a super nice guy, his wife and kids are great, he has two kids the same age as my kids. We're not like close friends, but I've known them for like 9 years. - I'll probably vote for him. A Republican in the Cali State Assembly can't do much harm anyway (it's 52 to 28 Dems).
10-19-2016 , 07:49 AM
What do you guys use for senate predictions?

Its kind of interesting to me that 538 has it approximately 75% for Dems to retake the Senate, but realclearpolitics has it most likely to be 51-49 for the Republicans.

I'm inclined to believe 538, but don't actually know what they're doing differently.
10-19-2016 , 07:56 AM
Sam Wang is modeling the Senate, and has it 62% Dem:
http://election.princeton.edu/todays...unt-histogram/

HuffPo has poll tracking for every state if you want to look at pictures and speculate on your own:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...6-senate-races
10-19-2016 , 08:01 AM
Thanks
10-19-2016 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
The more I read about FL's Amendment 1 the more astounded I am that it was ever put on the ballot. It's shockingly misleading. It's being pushed by utility companies and pretty much every critic says it was designed to and will in fact kill solar in FL but it's being sold as a "solar energy amendment."

As bad as FL gov can be at least the courts are usually pretty good in keeping misleading **** from becoming ballot initiatives, no idea what happened with this one.
Just read the text, I assume the "abstain from subsidizing" language means utilities will charge a fee for solar users. That's the way the Nevada bill worked.
10-19-2016 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
Just read the text, I assume the "abstain from subsidizing" language means utilities will charge a fee for solar users. That's the way the Nevada bill worked.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...109017387.html
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The policy director of a think tank hired by Florida’s largest electric utilities admitted at a conference this month what opponents have claimed for months: The industry attempted to deceive voters into supporting restrictions on the expansion of solar by shrouding Amendment 1 as a pro-solar amendment.

Sal Nuzzo, a vice president at the James Madison Institute in Tallahassee, detailed the strategy used by the state’s largest utilities to create and finance Amendment 1 at the State Energy/Environment Leadership Summit in Nashville on Oct. 2.

Nuzzo called the amendment, which has received more than $21 million in utility industry financing, “an incredibly savvy maneuver” that “would completely negate anything they (pro-solar interests) would try to do either legislatively or constitutionally down the road,” according to an audio recording of the event supplied to the Herald/Times.

He offered others a recommendation: “As you guys look at policy in your state, or constitutional ballot initiatives in your state, remember this: Solar polls very well,” he said.

“To the degree that we can use a little bit of political jiu-jitsu and take what they’re kind of pinning us on and use it to our benefit either in policy, in legislation or in constitutional referendums — if that’s the direction you want to take — use the language of promoting solar, and kind of, kind of put in these protections for consumers that choose not to install rooftop.”
10-19-2016 , 12:10 PM
Cali bros, I'm kinda leaning Sanchez on the strength of her vote against the Iraq war. Any other key differentiators I should know about?
10-19-2016 , 12:12 PM
There was a brief discussion in the lc thread about whether ballot referendums are bad, and this is pretty much exhibit A.

As to whether what they are actually asking for is bad is a bit more open for debate, but it's definitely a thing that should be pursued either in state legislature or in front of their state regulatory commission.
10-19-2016 , 12:19 PM
In local news, disbarred sex offender and antebellum cosplayer Joe Morrissey continues to lead solidly in the Richmond VA mayoral race. On the other hand, he did bring an AK-47 to the state House of Delegates.
10-19-2016 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Cali bros, I'm kinda leaning Sanchez on the strength of her vote against the Iraq war. Any other key differentiators I should know about?
That's a good one, but Kamala does say she opposed the Iraq War from the beginning and it's not like the Iraq War vote was the Patriot Act or something where you had to stick your neck out like Barbara Lee to vote against it. Most Democrats voted against the Iraq War resolution.

I'm leaning towards Harris because of things like Prop. 57, which in my mind(1) is a move towards ending mass incarceration and in Sanchez's mind(2) it's

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“It’s irresponsible and dangerous, and it will soften our laws at a time when crime is on the rise in California,” Sanchez said at a news conference in Los Angeles, joined by opponents of Proposition 57.
(1) and Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsom, Charlie Beck, Democratic party, Libertarian Party, Green Party, bunch of others

(2) and Tom McClintock, Republican party, buncha cops and prosecutors
10-19-2016 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
There was a brief discussion in the lc thread about whether ballot referendums are bad, and this is pretty much exhibit A.

As to whether what they are actually asking for is bad is a bit more open for debate, but it's definitely a thing that should be pursued either in state legislature or in front of their state regulatory commission.
I disagree. Like Churchill said Democracy is the worst form of government except for every other kind, you have to compare it to the alternative. State legislatures are awful. The legislators themselves are generally no better than average people at this, they are just as easily influenced by arguments of interested parties and are much more easily influenced in other ways.
10-19-2016 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
In local news, disbarred sex offender and antebellum cosplayer Joe Morrissey continues to lead solidly in the Richmond VA mayoral race. On the other hand, he did bring an AK-47 to the state House of Delegates.
Case in point, elected representatives can easily be worse than the average person.
10-19-2016 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
That's a good one, but Kamala does say she opposed the Iraq War from the beginning and it's not like the Iraq War vote was the Patriot Act or something where you had to stick your neck out like Barbara Lee to vote against it. Most Democrats voted against the Iraq War resolution.

I'm leaning towards Harris because of things like Prop. 57, which in my mind(1) is a move towards ending mass incarceration and in Sanchez's mind(2) it's



(1) and Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsom, Charlie Beck, Democratic party, Libertarian Party, Green Party, bunch of others

(2) and Tom McClintock, Republican party, buncha cops and prosecutors
Thanks for your posts on Sanchez/Harris, they've helped.
10-19-2016 , 02:16 PM
Yeah, good post, micro. You have me back on the fence.
10-26-2016 , 06:45 PM
Article on Jason Kander (D) tightening the race in MO, specifically after releasing this ad, which is amazing:

10-26-2016 , 07:04 PM
That ad slayed in MO. The gun fetish here is insane. I anticipate required carry here in the 5 years.
I do expect Blunt to outperform his polling with a strong GOTV operation in the evangelical SW Missouri. It will be close.
10-26-2016 , 08:11 PM
That's a fantastic ad.
10-26-2016 , 09:24 PM
Damn that ad is hotttt
10-26-2016 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I disagree. Like Churchill said Democracy is the worst form of government except for every other kind, you have to compare it to the alternative. State legislatures are awful. The legislators themselves are generally no better than average people at this, they are just as easily influenced by arguments of interested parties and are much more easily influenced in other ways.
I agree with this. My state rep has trouble forming complete sentences it's horrible
10-26-2016 , 09:45 PM
I live in MA, not even NH, and don't watch much TV at all, but I'm not kidding when I say I've seen maybe 500 ads for the Hassan vs. Ayotte race. Hassan should be able to win if it wasn't for her unlivable Martha Coakley vibe.

I'm pretty sure I heard on NPR that the spend for just this race will approach something like $75-100M. Just unreal.....
10-26-2016 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by adanthar
Senate rn:

IL 100% D
WI 100% D
IN 80%+ D, Young has never led
NV probably D
PA lean D

NC tossup, I'd say slight D because of ground
NH tossup
MO slight lean R. Ground could make the difference here as Kanter is very close.

AZ (McCain) 90%+ R
FL (Rubio) 90%+ R
LA 99% R after the jungle primary

PA makes 50. With current conditions Dems take 51-52 on avg.
Right now:

Il/WI are locks
IN/NV are 90%+. NV early voting is brutal for GOP turnout, possibly the worst in the country short of AZ. Two NV House seats are also going to flip
NC leans D, early voting looks very good
PA leans D
--50---
MO tossup
NH tossup, possibly slight lean R. Polls all show greater than usual ticket splitting
FL leans R. Rubio is not winning by much but has never trailed
AZ/LA 99% R

      
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