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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

07-19-2018 , 07:26 PM
There's just no way the Dems are going to take back the House or Senate, is there? Even if they overcome the gerrymander and voter suppression, it'll just be hacked. The GOP is going out of their way to block any efforts to secure this year's election and Trump is literally inviting the guy responsible for attacking the 2016 election to the ****ing White House right around the 2018 election.

I'd say it's like inviting the enemy to the door, but obviously for the GOP it currently goes something like:

GOP > Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enemy of the People (Media) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Democrats

They view the opposition party and the media as threats to the country, but not Russia.

Edited to add: I know none of this is news, or surprising to those of us paying attention, but it still seems peculiar to state as fact, and terrifying to understand.
07-19-2018 , 07:27 PM
NDA doesn't protect against subpoenas and usually doesn't even protect against civil proceedings (like depositions and interrogatories). Usually the judge will just order the information to remain confidential and getting even that much can get really annoying.

Resistance is usually futile (at least in federal courts, never seen cases in state courts.) I've seen third parties (usually the firm that required the employee to sign NDA) trying to prevent someone from disclosing information but it has never worked.

Note, especially in depositions, you might still be liable for breaching the NDA even if you feel compelled to give information.

Last edited by grizy; 07-19-2018 at 07:32 PM.
07-19-2018 , 07:32 PM
Every GOP senator has immense power they choose not to exercise.



https://twitter.com/NAACP_LDF/status...231469568?s=19
07-19-2018 , 07:32 PM


Donald Trump says “Challenge Accepted!”
07-19-2018 , 07:39 PM
Seems real not smart for Trump to invite Putin near the mid-terms. Hell, Manafort's (first) trial is supposed to be a week away, and Mueller's obstruction report will likely come in mid to late August. The optics may be so bad that Trump will be forced to cancel.
07-19-2018 , 07:56 PM
This is interesting, but it's noteworthy that only around 1% of the country watches Maddow or Hannity. Maybe 5% watch any MSNBC or Fox. Don't forget that people who follow online politics forums are freaks.



https://twitter.com/MSNBCPR/status/1...716978695?s=19
07-19-2018 , 07:58 PM
Lol my boy said optics may be bad. I spit out my iced coffee laughing.
07-19-2018 , 08:03 PM
Rosenstein Must go!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.11bfab6fc89f

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The Justice Department plans to alert the public to foreign operations targeting U.S. democracy under a new policy designed to counter hacking and disinformation campaigns such as the one Russia undertook in 2016 to disrupt the presidential election.

The government will inform American companies, private organizations and individuals that they are being covertly attacked by foreign actors attempting to affect elections or the political process.
07-19-2018 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Seems real not smart for Trump to invite Putin near the mid-terms. Hell, Manafort's (first) trial is supposed to be a week away, and Mueller's obstruction report will likely come in mid to late August. The optics may be so bad that Trump will be forced to cancel.
If I hear another ****ing moron say "it's bad optics" I'm gonna flip a gasket. Trump has done a million bad optics things and it literally didn't matter. Putin too. They relish in this ****, they're going to wave it in front of your faces knowing it doesn't matter and nobody will do a damn thing and their base will eat it up because liberal tears.
07-19-2018 , 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplicitus
Seems real not smart for Trump to invite Putin near the mid-terms. Hell, Manafort's (first) trial is supposed to be a week away, and Mueller's obstruction report will likely come in mid to late August. The optics may be so bad that Trump will be forced to cancel.
LOL @ it being up to Trump
07-19-2018 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
This is interesting, but it's noteworthy that only around 1% of the country watches Maddow or Hannity. Maybe 5% watch any MSNBC or Fox. Don't forget that people who follow online politics forums are freaks.
Wonder what % get their political news/opinions from facebook.
07-19-2018 , 08:20 PM
New line of attack in the derposphere is that some of the 500 pieces of evidence against Paul Manafort are communications between him and the guy who later became Bernie's campaign manager. No evidence that Bernie's campaign did anything illegal, but apparently having a campaign manager that is tangentially mentioned in an indictment is worse than having a campaign manager who's the actual target of an indictment.
07-19-2018 , 08:29 PM
Apparently Bernie's guy worked for Manafort in Ukraine back in the day and has mainly done foreign stuff the last decade, like a Manafort, Jr. Don't know if it's meaningful but Bernie probably should have avoided him. His 2014 emails listed as evidence may just establish foundational facts. We'll see. If he's dirty his time will come.
07-19-2018 , 09:00 PM


https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/st...603982852?s=19
07-19-2018 , 09:33 PM
If there is a blue wave in November, it is a stone lock that the GOP will blame Russian meddling. Get ready, cuz it's gonna be tilting. Devin Nunes probably already has a report prepared saying that MS-13 paid the Russians to add millions of illegals to the voter rolls.
07-19-2018 , 10:19 PM


This type of propaganda straight up terrifies me.
07-19-2018 , 10:27 PM
It seems like a rough reconstruction of the Trump-Putin one on one is something like:

"You didn't interfere in our elections, right?"
"Nope." (strong)

Later, Putin, "How about I provide access to the 12 Russians you indicted if you hand over McPhaul and Browder?"
"Sounds like a good deal. I'll talk it over with my guys and convince them."

"I should visit the White House soon. I shall visit this fall."
"OK! Hopefully my vroom-vroom bango tank parade will be then. I'll have jackets made."

"Announce this visit as a public surprise to the heads of your intelligence services."
"I love it, especially this summer."

And now something about Crimea. Most likely another servile concession straight from "Art of the Deal." That is 100% disaster and seems to account for about 5 minutes of the 2+ hour meeting.
07-19-2018 , 10:48 PM
Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs has a new profile pic:

07-19-2018 , 10:57 PM
It's interesting the Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs has access to a picture never previously posted anywhere of totally-not-a-spy Maria Butina.
07-19-2018 , 11:02 PM
That's the only pic I've seen of her not either next to a Republican politician or brandishing a gun.
07-19-2018 , 11:09 PM
elbows conveniently cropped out
07-19-2018 , 11:10 PM
She looks like Ginny Weasleykov
07-19-2018 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
She looks like Ginny Weasleykov
Crime and Potterment was my favorite book in the series.
07-19-2018 , 11:48 PM
NYT with yet another thinkpiece about Trump voters in diners talking about how much they love Trump...

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This account does white supremacy a great service in several ways: It ignores workers of color, along with humane, even progressive white workers. It allows college-educated white liberals to signal superior virtue while denying the sins of their own place and class. And it conceals well-informed, formally educated white conservatives — from middle-class suburbia to the highest ranks of influence — who voted for Donald Trump in legions.
Wait, workers of color? Upper-class Trump voters? That's not how these pieces are supposed to

Quote:
Still, millions of white working-class people have refused to be played. They have resisted the traps of racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia and nationalism and voted the other way — or, in too many cases, not voted at all. I am far less interested in calls for empathy toward struggling white Americans who spout or abide hatred than I am in tapping into the political power of those who don’t.

Like many Midwestern workers I know, my dad has more in common ideologically with New York’s Democratic Socialist congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez than with the white Republicans who run our state. Having spent most of his life doing dangerous, underpaid work without health insurance, he supports the ideas of single-payer health care and a universal basic income.
YOU'RE DOING THIS ALL WRONG!

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Media coverage suggests that economically distressed whiteness elected Mr. Trump, when in fact it was just plain whiteness.
Is Maggie on sick leave? This is madness!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/o...version=latest
07-20-2018 , 01:00 AM


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