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Old 07-07-2018, 01:53 PM   #176
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lol at thinking this guy has a core belief that presidents shouldnít lie. he has a core belief that democrat presidents should get ****ed
This. Nobody confirmed will give a **** about intellectual consistency.

No idea where the concept that SCOTUS judges were impartial came from.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:28 PM   #177
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Going for twitter dunks is what the left expects from the DEMe nowadays.

Tell that to Al Gore.
Iím not convinced that Gore suffered much at all because of his association with Clinton, and even if he did, it wasnít specific to the vote to impeach Clinton.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:03 PM   #178
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We are so ****ed.

This is not why Chuck Schumer sucks. I don't really see much he can do here.

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Fly's post of this tweet in the other thread (where this discussion belongs anyway) drives this home a lot better:

This, however, is EXACTLY why Schumer sucks.
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Old 07-09-2018, 12:36 AM   #179
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Bold Supreme Court Prediction

OK, time for Former DJ to stick his neck out and make another bold political prediction. This one concerns Trump's selection for elevation to the United States Supreme Court.

My prediction is that the individual Trump announces Monday night will not be confirmed by a majority vote of the Senate. (A "majority vote" would mean at least 51 senators voting to affirm Trump's nominee. A 50-50 vote - with Vice President Mike Pence casting the tie-breaking vote - would not invalidate my prediction.) Call it gut instinct or whatever, but I have a feeling a majority of senators will not vote to confirm Trump's nominee.
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Old 07-09-2018, 02:30 AM   #180
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you haven't been paying attention.
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Old 07-09-2018, 02:34 AM   #181
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The Mooch will do a great job on the bench.
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Old 07-09-2018, 02:58 AM   #182
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNFBRZ2phKE&t=1m48s
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:33 AM   #183
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lol man theres nothing worse than an unembedded youtube link. you really think anybody is clicking that ****? lol
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:21 AM   #184
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One of the best articles I've seen on the movement to create a conservative judiciary.

The Secrets of Leonard Leo, the Man Behind Trump’s Supreme Court Pick
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Old 07-09-2018, 12:45 PM   #185
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OK, time for Former DJ to stick his neck out and make another bold political prediction. This one concerns Trump's selection for elevation to the United States Supreme Court.

My prediction is that the individual Trump announces Monday night will not be confirmed by a majority vote of the Senate. (A "majority vote" would mean at least 51 senators voting to affirm Trump's nominee. A 50-50 vote - with Vice President Mike Pence casting the tie-breaking vote - would not invalidate my prediction.) Call it gut instinct or whatever, but I have a feeling a majority of senators will not vote to confirm Trump's nominee.
Heitkamp, Donnelly and Manchin are almost certainly going to vote with Trump for this SCOTUS pick. They voted for Gorsuch afterall, and being yet closer to their elections makes it even more important for them to follow their electorate.

Tester probably votes with Trump despite all the jabs back and forth. For him, there's not much upside, but lots of downside. If he votes against both of Trump's SCOTUS picks, his GOP opponent will be able to run a very clean path against him. Currently, Tester enjoys a 52% majority in the latest poll (RCP), which could evaporate. Trump has 55% positive rating (defined as fair or better) in a U-Montana poll back in March (and its likely that he has improved since then). Trump appears to be focusing on Tester too, which is a wildcard of sorts for the SCOTUS vote. Does Tester vote with Trump for SCOTUS in a vote that will almost certainly go Trump's way as an olive branch offer so that Trump will lighten up on him for the election?

Unclear what Jones will decide. He's safe in his seat until 2021. Personally I expect him to vote no.

Very unlikely that the rhetoric we are hearing from Collins, Corker, Flake, etc. will materialize into votes against.

Good chance McCain returns to the Senate to vote in favor. Word this week is that he's in physical therapy and doing well. In two weeks, he very well could be in good enough shape to journey to DC.
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Old 07-09-2018, 12:55 PM   #186
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If it's already a slam dunk (i.e. all 51 R senators are on record as being in favor), then I'd expect that Heitkamp/Donnelly/Manchin will vote yes, as they did with Gorsuch.

If a couple R senators publicly claim they're voting no (I'm aware that this is an unlikely scenario), then I'm not so sure.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:01 PM   #187
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Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous that the future of the country depends to such a large extent on technicalities, arcane rules that can be gamed, and the randomness of many things including death and even weather?

Those slaveholder founding fathers were neither that smart nor noble. I have read that their desire for a Revolutionary War was based in large part on personal interest. So they encouraged a war with a country that outlawed slavery thirty years sooner than we did and gave us a constitution that game players (and Kurt Godel) found ways to twist to their own ends.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:02 PM   #188
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Good chance McCain returns to the Senate to vote in favor. Word this week is that he's in physical therapy and doing well. In two weeks, he very well could be in good enough shape to journey to DC.
What are the chances he would vote "no"?
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:21 PM   #189
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:12 PM   #190
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God I’m so pumped for scotus. Got my lotion out and a bottle of wine. Gonna be a good night bros let’s whip the dongs for the scotus!
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:40 PM   #191
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What are the chances he would vote "no"?
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:50 PM   #192
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Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous that the future of the country depends to such a large extent on technicalities, arcane rules that can be gamed, and the randomness of many things including death and even weather?

Those slaveholder founding fathers were neither that smart nor noble. I have read that their desire for a Revolutionary War was based in large part on personal interest. So they encouraged a war with a country that outlawed slavery thirty years sooner than we did and gave us a constitution that game players (and Kurt Godel) found ways to twist to their own ends.
And yet, the system you are talking about created this great country that you are now crying tears over predicting its certain demise.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:10 PM   #193
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It really doesn't matter who he picks when they're all gonna overturn Roe v Wade and look the other way with charges against Trump. This COUNTDOWN TILL THE PICK is so stupid. We get what we deserve here.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:12 PM   #194
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So my Dad just had cataract surgery and I called him to see how he was doing, and after some pleasantries, he says"

"I'm just waiting for Trump and his announcement of the next Supreme Court, and the Left is so laughable, not wanting the woman because she has 7 kids, can you believe that? You all on the Left are just so wrong about everything, but I think he's going to wait to pick the woman because he wants her to replace Ginsburg - she never should've been on the Supreme Court to begin with, you know that? Awful woman."

I just listen now and reply with an "Okay" at the end. There is literally no point to engage.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:13 PM   #195
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If it's already a slam dunk (i.e. all 51 R senators are on record as being in favor), then I'd expect that Heitkamp/Donnelly/Manchin will vote yes, as they did with Gorsuch.

If a couple R senators publicly claim they're voting no (I'm aware that this is an unlikely scenario), then I'm not so sure.
add Jones to this even though he has no chance at re election anyway. Maybe some other dems in red states too who have to think about it. Ofc, any dem who does risks making the libs in that state not vote for them because there are many libs who are stupid as hell.

I don't see how that person won't be confirmed, too many dems are gonna be interested in saving their own seats.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:20 PM   #196
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God Iím so pumped for scotus. Got my lotion out and a bottle of wine. Gonna be a good night bros letís whip the dongs for the scotus!
I follow some Federalist Society guys on Twitter and that's the general attitude but with 50% more smugness
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:40 PM   #197
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I thought McConnell wanted Hardiman or Kethledge because they'd be smoother sailing through confirmation. Regardless, looks like it's Kavanaugh, perhaps to spite McConnell.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:55 PM   #198
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I thought McConnell wanted Hardiman or Kethledge because they'd be smoother sailing through confirmation. Regardless, looks like it's Kavanaugh, perhaps to spite McConnell.
Kavanaugh has the longest paper trail, which will initially cause controversy, but he is the most likely to do very well at the hearings and once past committee to be confirmed easily.

The others are more unknown which means all kinds of **** can happen.

just my opinion
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:58 PM   #199
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kavanaugh has a quote saying "will follow roe v wade faithfully and fully". obviously we dont know what they would do when they get there. but seems an interesting choice for his religious base.
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:00 PM   #200
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which one wrote several books about the sanctity of life? i'll put my money on that one
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