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Roe v Wade probably isn't going to get overtly overturned. They won't do something so drastic. They're going to let states put any restrictions on it they want though so we end up with no abortion providers in the states that don't want them. That way they avoid the backlash of a concrete decision while effectively getting what they want, no legal abortions.

But knowing that Conservatives are much more radical than I imagine maybe they do go full bore and strait up overturn it.

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06-30-2018 , 06:56 AM

#153

Huehuecoyotl

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In any case the Supreme Court is the big weakness of the US (other than a Presidential system). The executive itself even has multiple reducancies built into it not to mention it takes several million people to get an executive in power, but the Supreme Court, if the correct 3 to 5 people die, you can have the wildest swings, from Lochner era laissez-faire capitalism to social democracy, all without large change in the underlying demos.

06-30-2018 , 08:46 AM

#154

Lapidator

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Originally Posted by Vecernicek

It was just speculation that I heard on a couple of podcasts. Nothing more than you see in musings like this.

I see... I was wondering if there was something new that I've missed, but no.

Stories get floated all the time about Thomas looking for an opportunity to step away from the court. They are all nonsense machinations by leftist agitprop.

07-01-2018 , 01:59 PM

#155

Sloppy Joe

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Originally Posted by grizy

I hope nobody tells Trump he technically can nominate anybody to the SCOTUS, including his own family members, even Barron.

Or foreign nationals... like Xi, Kim, or Putin.

He might even nominate himself. The job would make a great side hustle.

07-03-2018 , 04:58 AM

#156

OmgGlutten!

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Coney Barrett is, among other things:
A woman
A mother of seven
Young (in her mid-40s)
A person of faith
Reliably conservative, particularly on social issues

sounds horrible.

07-05-2018 , 11:54 AM

#157

champstark

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Just so it's clear what kind of a likely nominee we are up against:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/03/...nted-unlawful/

Quote:

Judge Brett Kavanaugh should be the next Supreme Court justice. He has by far the strongest, most consistent, most fearless record of constitutional conservatism of any federal court of appeals judge in the country.

Over 12 years and 300 opinions, he has repeatedly fought for principles of textualism and originalism, reined in regulatory overreach, and ensured that administrative bureaucrats are accountable to the elected president. Nominating Kavanaugh would continue President Trump’s exemplary record of selecting the best-qualified person for the Supreme Court, as he did with his brilliant choice of Justice Neil Gorsuch.

07-05-2018 , 02:27 PM

#158

+rep_lol

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Originally Posted by JoltinJake

hahaha oh wow

like everything i've ever seen from masque on this site, from poker to politics, his strategy posts are exceptionally poor whilst being the wordiest and most difficult to read

07-05-2018 , 03:24 PM

#159

Dominic

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We are so ****ed.

07-05-2018 , 04:25 PM

#160

OmgGlutten!

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Shaped by his experience in the 1990s working alongside former independent counsel Ken Starr, who investigated former President Bill Clinton, Kavanaugh has argued that presidents should be shielded from lawsuits and criminal investigations

The front runner

07-05-2018 , 04:33 PM

#161

cramble

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Originally Posted by Dominic

We are so ****ed.

That's just embarrassing, he should know better. Begging is never a good look.

07-05-2018 , 05:17 PM

#162

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Should have just told him that president Obummer couldn't even get Merrick Gardland appointed. Would be very impressive if someone could!

07-05-2018 , 11:03 PM

#163

Dominic

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This is is interesting...

Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, the front-runner to replace Justice Anthony M. Kennedy on the Supreme Court, once argued that President Bill Clinton could be impeached for lying to his staff and misleading the public, a broad definition of obstruction of justice that would be damaging if applied to President Trump in the Russia investigation.

07-06-2018 , 07:30 AM

#164

champstark

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If the frontrunner thing is to be believed, this will tell us who has the most influence over Daddy:

Kavanaugh: the darling of the traditional Bush/Reagan wing

Barrett: the religious/ultra-conservative Pence wing

Kethledge: the rebellious, **** both the other groups wing

anyone else: Trump listens to one person (McConnell, for instance) and wants to have the maximum television, surprise factor

Because of how good conservatives made him feel for nominating Gorsuch, I think it would be a shock if this is anyone but Kavanaugh, who is also a lock to get confirmed because at least 3-4 Democrats will vote for him.

07-07-2018 , 01:30 AM

#165

cramble

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Originally Posted by champstark

There's no such thing as a Bush/Reagan wing. Not for either of the two Bushes, who were each quite different, and each far from Reagan.

That's like two strikes on one swing. You're almost out.

Maybe three strikes depending on how you count.

07-07-2018 , 01:55 AM

#166

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We are so so ****ed. I mean Brett Kavanaugh is the leading candidate.

He is 54 cents at predictit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Kavanaugh

Quote:

A protégé of Kenneth Starr, Kavanaugh played a lead role in drafting the Starr report, which urged the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.[1] Kavanaugh also led the investigation into the suicide of Clinton aide Vincent Foster. After the 2000 U.S. Presidential election, in which Kavanaugh worked for the George W. Bush campaign in the Florida recount, Kavanaugh joined Bush's staff, where he led the Administration's effort to identify and confirm judicial nominees.[2]

Kavanaugh was nominated to the D.C. Appeals Court by Bush in 2003. His confirmation hearings were contentious and stalled for three years over charges of partisanship. Kavanaugh was ultimately confirmed in May 2006 after a series of negotiations between Democratic and Republican Senators.[3][4][5] According to Jeffrey Toobin, Kavanaugh is a potential future Republican nominee to the Supreme Court.[6][7][8] On June 27, 2018 Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement, effective July 31, 2018. Kavanaugh is seen as a front-runner for appointment to fill that vacancy.[9]

**** we are looking at a Starr/Foster guy being the main front runner...damn it he is only 53, damn it this current pic

**** this ****er is going to be on the court for the next 40 years huh

07-07-2018 , 11:47 AM

#167

estefaniocurry

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Trump will intentionally name someone no one in their right mind had guessed, whose incompetence for the post is completely beyond question.

07-07-2018 , 12:45 PM

#168

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Originally Posted by estefaniocurry

Trump will intentionally name someone no one in their right mind had guessed, whose incompetence for the post is completely beyond question.

I don’t know why you think he is going to surprise the crowd with his next nomination. He sure as hell didn’t with Gorsuch. There isn’t much advantage to coloring outside the lines on SCOTUS nominations. It just introduces unnecessary variance from Trump’s perspective. It’s much safer to just nominate someone like Kavanaugh or Kethledge.

07-07-2018 , 12:48 PM

#169

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Originally Posted by Dominic

This is is interesting...

Democrats need to quit fantasizing about impeachment. Unless you have the votes to actually remove the president from office, impeachment doesn’t accomplish much.

07-07-2018 , 12:51 PM

#170

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Originally Posted by Dominic

We are so ****ed.

This is an example of why people get irritated at Schumer. He knows perfectly well that Trump will never nominate Merrick Garland.

07-07-2018 , 01:35 PM

#171

iron81

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Going for twitter dunks is what the left expects from the DEMe nowadays.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rococo

Democrats need to quit fantasizing about impeachment. Unless you have the votes to actually remove the president from office, impeachment doesn’t accomplish much.

Tell that to Al Gore.

07-07-2018 , 01:37 PM

#172

goofyballer

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Do strawmen make you feel better about DEMe failure?

What the left expects is for them to ****ing stand up for something, whether it's on Twitter or otherwise.