lmao we were probably funding bin Laden in 1988

Khashoggi's piece was probably paid for by the DoD

Nah, it never ocurred to them anyone else would even care. Just cleaning house, keeping things in order. They think like mafia.

There is an article in The Atlantic that speculates that the murder of the guy may have been a botched kidnapping attempt.

Obviously. Khashoggi's murder is a political problem for Trump so he's going to be Seth Rich's murderer or have been coordinating the Benghazi attacks by next week and it will be revealed the Saudis were doing morally justifiable homicide, and in fact I kinda suspect that if this story has legs, Howard Beale's post above was really the front-lines for deplorables who are going to becoming passingly familiar learned-on-Reddit experts on diplomatic immunity and are going to wonder aloud if perhaps more political enemies should be lured into consulates to be chopped into pieces and if QAnon will be able to legally dismember Jim Acosta so long as he does it from within the confines of the backroom of an embassy. This is true, do a quick tour of your favorite deplorable hangouts, these people are fomenting the ideas that embassies are like the Thunderdome and the Saudis just figured out the cheat code to do legal murder.

Why would they bring their surreptitious dismemberment expert to a kidnapping?

Any good kidnapping plan has a failsafe option to chop up the mark with a bone saw. Can't leave anything to chance with these things.

Also strange that the kidnapping failed somehow but the Plan B to cut him into pieces went OK.

Nikki resigned the day after this went down right? Wonder if they’re connected

Just in case.

Yeah the "it was supposed to be a kidnapping" seems like PR spin.

We were just THREATENING him with the bone saw and it slipped. Could happen to anybody.

The old, well we actually just wanted to commit this other awful crime instead, a thing. Yeah, was already wondering how the spin was gonna come, it's a good thing that guy was murdered, holy **** balls is that a slope you don't want them to start going down.

Haley was getting investigated for private jet use on the day that got announced she'd resign too since she uses private jets a lot despite being broke (though that's probably a lie to cheat on taxes) and in a big gov't position. Putting the logic cap on--she resigned to get Graham's senate seat when he's appointed AG after midterms or simply wanted that investigation to die out/out of the news but I think that was just a bonus. Like the Trump admin gives a damn lolz.

It was reported out there that we knew the saudis were gonna kidnap him and we didn't give a ****.

Not buying the Apple watch

Credit where it’s due though: “mobile autopsy expert” is a truly world class euphemism for axe murderer. “You’re never going to believe it, but this guy died of being dismembered with surgical implements too!”

Thanks for taking the time. I'd thought that all embassies were considered the soil of the nation they were representing. The nation's flag is hoisted, Assange can't be arrested, there are troops from the home nation, etc, etc but I guess that I wasn't technically correct

They just need this guy:

At this point if you believe the Turkish info (and it seems as if you should) then case closed, they just intentionally murdered the dude in grisly fashion. But I don't think the initial speculation that maybe this was a kidnapping gone wrong was propaganda or spin. The Saudis did just get finished kidnapping half their business elite and shaking them down in unpleasant ways, so they do have previous.

What's more, if you want to off a pesky journalist why not stage a car crash or whatever? Why send 15 known murder specialists to somewhere you know (or damn well should know) is under constant surveillance by mildly hostile rivals? Bone sawing dissidents in embassies is fairly unprecedented, but fig leaf deniable accidents or random killings have a long and venerable history.

After the Skripal thing too I guess the takeaway is that our idiot times have the idiot secret services they deserve.

The Putin way. You want them to know it was you because you're sending a message and you know nobody is gonna do squat.

Yeah, I guess, but it seems a obvious net negative. There's already way more noise and outrage about it than about starving a population of hundreds of thousands, difficult to see why they need that. Certainly it won't mean the US or anyone else gets a conscience and cuts off SA, but they'll probably have to pay the right lobbyists more money, or buy a few more of the right people's flats, or however else they keep the wheels greased.

Also, as above, they just got done kidnapping, torturing and occasionally killing business people whose only error was being rich and not one of MBS's inner circle. Of course they'll mess you up if you're an internal dissident, they chop off people's heads in public squares for thought crimes, I think everyone gets the message.

What do our ambassadors to Saudi Arabia and Turkey have to say about this? They must be busy. There are huge swaths of presidential responsibility Trump has ignored or installed rube grifters to oversee. A lot of those, "why do we need someone doing that?" and "does it matter who does this job?" type questions are getting answered here.

None of this matters a single bit unfortunately. Trump supporters and most all Republicans in general are too ****ing stupid to even know what an ambassador does. They are told the positions are made up and not needed, and they take that as the gospel from their religious right king. As soon as they are told that this journalist deserved to die, you know, for defending Hillary's emails or something, that will be the end of it. Complete and utter morons - every one of them.

Turks apparently have video evidence of some sort.

kudos turk spies kudos.

Word actually is that he was wearing an Apple watch synced to his iphone in a remote location. So kudos to the victim.

I like how SA brings in a team of 15, including "bonesaw a body apart in record time" guy, but seem to have forgotten "checks torture victim for painfully obvious transmitting device" guy. That's just one of the many reasons their Apple watch story doesn't add up. I think it was Bob Baer saying they probably just don't want to advertise that they have consulates wired and I tend to agree.

^^This. Word is the Apple watch isn't where the evidence is from and that the Turks had the consulate bugged.

We're having company I want this pig sty spotless