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07-11-2017 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
a. I didn't imply you did, I don't think.

b. Well, educate me then.
Not once in 50 billion messages here was that word used, by Fly or anyone, as an insult towards a Jewish person. I'm not gonna 'educate' about the holocaust, find your local synagogue or email ADL and ask them what to do if someone is "acting like a". You're just on the wrong side here (and tbh, I'd be surprised if that side has any company).

I'm not trolling, nor am I doing anything tbh. I didn't ask for a temp-ban or think it was justified. Please allow it to be my final post on this.
07-11-2017 , 06:25 AM
Now that clovis and fly have both been temp-banned for their work in this thread do we agree tthric?
07-11-2017 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Now that clovis and fly have both been temp-banned for their work in this thread do we agree tthric?
it's just getting good imo
07-11-2017 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
Not once in 50 billion messages here was that word used, by Fly or anyone, as an insult towards a Jewish person. I'm not gonna 'educate' about the holocaust, find your local synagogue or email ADL and ask them what to do if someone is "acting like a". You're just on the wrong side here (and tbh, I'd be surprised if that side has any company).

I'm not trolling, nor am I doing anything tbh. I didn't ask for a temp-ban or think it was justified. Please allow it to be my final post on this.
What does educating me about the holocaust have to do with anything? Wtf are you even talking about? (that's rhetorical, I know the answer but I refuse to believe it's that dumb)

Look, when David Friedman said J Street was 'worse than kapos' he received a ton of negative press, and rightfully so:

https://www.google.com/search?q=davi...+friedman+kapo

Of all the condemnations I don't see anything about antisemitism or racism against Jewish people or anything about being a so-called self-hating Jew.

Here's one Mr. Elsner:

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For me, the use of the word “kapo” to describe me and the many good-hearted American Jews who want to see Israel make peace with the Palestinians and end the ongoing conflict — as well as ending Israel’s military control over another people – reveals a man who is totally uncompromising, intolerant, inflexible and verbally cruel–all dreadful traits for a diplomat. It shows that Friedman is willing to casually besmirch our people’s greatest, most sacred memory as well as our deepest trauma to advance his own narrow interests. This is not a person worthy of or qualified for the honor of representing all Americans — and not just Donald Trump — in Israel.

Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/360913/sm...-representing/
He forgot to add really ****ing stupid though, imo.

All of that's fair criticism but that's not really what this chapter is about, right?

You denigrated and derided Fly for racism-sniffing and making much ado about nothing over the 14 words and yet here you are saying he's being racist and antisemitic because he used a word that triggered you, that doesn't have a dynamic of racism or antisemiticism. You want to pwn the anti-racist guy, words-meaning-things be damned.

Honestly this is a level of myopic hypocrisy to where I still have to assume you're ****ing with us.
07-11-2017 , 07:39 AM
You asked me to educate you, I thought it was a genuine request.

Is your argument that using Kapo as an insult by Jews towards Jews is only extremely hurtufl, distateful, intolerent etc? I would think it's a bad argument, only it's not even true.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/on-davi...-jewish-honor/

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Records from kapo trials remain sealed in Israel until 70 years after each trial, and David Friedman’s use of the slur led some critics, including Schraub, to claim Friedman violated the recently passed Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.
Read the entire article to get an understanding of what calling someone a kapo means. Seriously, have some basic decency and read the goddamn article you linked.

And this is only when used by insane right wing Jewish nut-jobs towards other Jews. I've literally never seen it used against Jews by non-Jews except one case in ADL labeled as "Anti-semitic" which I quoted.

This is actually the strangest hill to die on and I already conceeded that I picked a bad one before.

I'm not implying Fly is anti-semitic. He used a word, that would have triggered every ****ing Jew in the world, intentionally to rattle someone based on his race. If he ever used that word before, I'd give him some 'credit' for just thinking it's a cool insult.
I PM'ed him to let him know this and said nothing else.

If you still think i'm wrong here, **** you.

Last edited by Yuv; 07-11-2017 at 07:51 AM.
07-11-2017 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
You asked me to educate you, I thought it was a genuine request.

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Lol, yeah it was a genuine request, to which you responded:

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Originally Posted by Yuv
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I'm not gonna...
So, like, I need to sleep on this and make sure it's not a dream.
07-11-2017 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Lol, yeah it was a genuine request, to which you responded:



So, like, I need to sleep on this and make sure it's not a dream.
Are you serious? You went with "F U you are bull****ting what if you're acting like a kapo? oh educate me why you're not" and I'm suppose to run in circles to explain myself?

**** off.
07-11-2017 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I did my best to derail. I failed.

You're just not a natural derailer. It's ok, not everybody can be. It's just gotta come naturally to you. :shrug:
07-11-2017 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
it's just getting good imo
Indeed.

The topic apparently is 'mean' people on the internet and a masterclass has been put on by fly. A title that we might suspect was meant to mock has come into it's own.

We also touched on the absolute nonsense of disagreeing about facts being called tone policing. That was thread worthy in itself. Was wookies defense really that there isn't really any meaning that can be disputed on a true/false basis so it's all just making raspberry noises? cant have been, I must have misunderstood so it would be good to see that resumed.

Plus no-one has discussed those chess boards that rolled up.
07-11-2017 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
Are you serious? You went with "F U you are bull****ting what if you're acting like a kapo? oh educate me why you're not" and I'm suppose to run in circles to explain myself?

**** off.
You're not supposed to do anything. I said 'educate me' and you instead decided to belittle me and deride me, like you have with everybody in this thread for what has to be at least 50 posts. Then you apparently changed your mind.

So I said let me sleep on it because it's all too bizarre right now.

Last edited by 5ive; 07-11-2017 at 08:09 AM.
07-11-2017 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
hey maybe Fly meant this:



let's not go all r/donald and be pizzagaters itt!

My friend has this cheap ****ty little capo and he tried to get me to use it on my guitar, the ****ing bottom of it is this sharp ****ing metal V. I'm like, yeah that **** will cut the **** out of my neck if I put it on my guitar, fuuuuuuck that. Some **** that's made these days is such ****ing garbage.

Like this piece on my PC case, this little worthless ****ing plastic piece. I had to take apart my PC to clean out the marijuana dust because it was starting to overheat when I was huntin some buck in hogs in stuff, and this little piece covering the second optical drive bay ****ing broke because of this ****ty little plastic piece and man it's ****ing ridiculous.
07-11-2017 , 08:03 AM
That D string looks ****in nasty
07-11-2017 , 08:04 AM
I can't stand dirty guitar strings
07-11-2017 , 08:07 AM
Also,

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Originally Posted by Yuv
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Read the entire article to get an understanding of what calling someone a kapo means.

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I know exactly what it means, that's the entire ****ing point of all this. You apparently don't! Only that's it's a no-no word for some reason. It describes a universal concept in all societies since the beginning of time, but I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were privy to some top-secret etymology.
07-11-2017 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Also,



I know exactly what it means, that's the entire ****ing point of all this. You apparently don't! Only that's it's a no-no word for some reason. It describes a universal concept in all societies since the beginning of time, but I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were privy to some top-secret etymology.
gtfo. Seriously, go to sleep. There's no ****ing way you're making these posts now in full conscientious.
07-11-2017 , 08:26 AM
Oh wait, one more thing:

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Originally Posted by Yuv
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He used a word, that would have triggered every ****ing Jew in the world, intentionally to rattle someone based on his race. If he ever used that word before, I'd give him some 'credit' for just thinking it's a cool insult.
I PM'ed him to let him know this and said nothing else.

If you still think i'm wrong here, **** you.

You're the same guy that said this below?


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Originally Posted by Yuv
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**** palin, **** trump, defiantly **** youngcons but gtfo with this bullcrap cause like we should all agree, its not the ****ing point

But somehow now we shouldn't focus on there being at least 50 synonyms for 'kapo'?

I mean, yeah dog, you're allowed to be a hypocrite because your burden is the heaviest of all the burdens. You've told us that much:


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Originally Posted by Yuv
You really gotta stop with this whole guardian of the left wing bull****. You're all white americans, how ****ing hard is it to be pseudo liberal when nothing bad ever ****ing happened to you.

There's nearly zero right wingers in the threads here. You're just an ******* who happened to be on the correct side of the political map in a country where it's literally the easiest to do so. All this glorification is a joke.

#idontunderstandforeigners #esl #youwantittobeoneway
07-11-2017 , 08:30 AM
This is either an insane meltdown that I don't mind totally forgetting when you wake up or you're actually going with reverse racism.

You flat out lied (or didn't read the links you quoted) about the lack of criticism on 'kapo' as anti-semitic. You argue that it's fine cause it's only extremely offensive and grotesque to call a Jew that. Now it's just a word with 50 synonyms that exists in every culture.

If it is, show me the one time anyone used it in Politics forum. Surely, between a billion messages, one person said hey, I'll use that synonym.

I specifically asked you not to drag me into a conversation where I need to ****ing explain that word in its meaning for Jews. You 'lol troll'ed me into it.
07-11-2017 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
And I didn't report the post.
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Originally Posted by Yuv
a) I did not report the post.
Yo, this isn't some badge of honor. It just means it takes longer for mods to be able to do their jobs. Please give mods a hand and help us help you by reporting posts when necessary.
07-11-2017 , 08:35 AM
Guy chooses an insult based on a poster's ethnicity and designed to hurt this poster on the basis of that ethnicity.

5ive is simply unable to rise from his fainting couch at the concept of someone claiming such as racist and instead takes issue with the victim of the slur. Has the gall to compare said slur implying that Yuv would aid in the extermination of his own race to ensure his personal survival to that of 'racism-sniffer wunderkid'.

How f*****g noble is 5ive? Very f*****g noble indeed. We should all have such a white knight.
07-11-2017 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Yo, this isn't some badge of honor. It just means it takes longer for mods to be able to do their jobs. Please give mods a hand and help us help you by reporting posts when necessary.
It is when I'm being accused of myopic hypocracy or w/e the **** was the phrase he used.
07-11-2017 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
You're just not a natural derailer. It's ok, not everybody can be. It's just gotta come naturally to you. :shrug:
Spread your wings and fly! The thread needs you.
07-11-2017 , 08:42 AM
The LirvA gimmick is actually the best poster ITT.
07-11-2017 , 08:48 AM
07-11-2017 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
It is when I'm being accused of myopic hypocracy or w/e the **** was the phrase he used.
Some accusations aren't worth engaging or refuting imo
07-11-2017 , 08:54 AM
The world of mycology is quite fascinating. Did you know there are a multitude of different substrates to be used when growing dank shrooms, each having their pros and cons?

I always thought cubes looked like dicks


      
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