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Originally Posted by t3hbandit
Everyone: Members of the gay community face more barbaric and harsher/widespread treatment in areas of the middle east than other parts of the world.
Oruku$aki: ZOMG but the ottoman empire decriminalised it 150 years ago! Stop your criticism immediately!
What you don't understand - and I'll try to explain, but while I seriously doubt you're intellectually capable of getting it, at least I can say I tried - is that this historical context actually matters a lot for the argument that Islamophobes like you and Dawkins make.
You guys don't say, "hey, Islam
as practiced today is bad, it's become too extreme". You say "Islam is bad
and has always been bad, just look at these hand-selected passages of the Koran, the religion is rotten from the inside".
If that were true, and Islam is just this uniquely awful scourge of world religions, how is it possible that the largest Muslim society in the world could also be the most progressive on gay rights at
any point in history? The argument you all put forward is that such a thing should never be possible, because the badness of Islam is baked into it from the core, it's not separable from other factors that routinely change societies around the world. And you people
never want to acknowledge that problems in Muslim societies today might have causes that aren't as simple as "Islam = bad", so you handwave such inconveniences away, every single time.