Yeah, I've read that article, Foldn. Should people be censored from discussing these ideas as microaggressions? Should, say, black students who have heard terms like this as pejoratives in the "the lazy n-words are poor because they don't pull themselves up by their bootstraps" sense just not be offended when some clueless white person doesn't realize that the land of opportunity isn't equally opportune for all?

So there's nothing you're aware of that distinguishes Foldn view or demands from Obama's?

What is the actual objection beyond some feeling that Foldn must believe things he doesn't seem to, and some SMP thingy.

So let's be be clear here: students are trying to take issues of racism seriously and try to work against that. In a country of TRUMP this seems completely appropriate, and completely appropriate to try to understand racism as often something more subtle than what TRUMP does. But college kids are pretty stupid and silly and trying on new ideas all the time and GASP some of them said something over the line on that whole microaggression bit. And thus...erm...of all the things they say....we need to all have a serious discussion about this specific issue. OK. Fighting the good fight, fold.

I've seen that america is a land of opportunity quote at least a dozen times. People LOVE it. It is so great for mocking, this great symbol of the allegedly over PC college culture. But you guys are literally masterbating over the idea of someone saying something stupid at a college somewhere.

You're at the end of your rope, lol. Anyway nobody is talking about censoring anything except the people who support that crap. What I'm doing is criticising that stupid idea. And so are a lot of other people, including, not sure if it's been mentioned, B. Obama.

Chez,

Foldn has made specific claims that some of the things in the articles he cited were injurious in some way and need to be corrected, despite no good evidence of either. Obama's thesis is that dumb kids should continue to be ignored, as they are.

Oh, right, the tragedy is that people disagree with you. How dare other people think that certain statements are kinda douchey?

What?? Why just a page ago we were all in agreement! What happened? This is a TRAGEDY!!

Okay lets try to hone in on this, it sounds substantial.

What's an example of something Foldn is demanding is corrected?

We agree about free speech. We disagree that some people calling some statements douchey is a free speech issue, or any issue at all.

Foldn doesn't think that saying "America is the land of opportunity" should be called a microaggression.

Foldn is demanding that people don't call that a microaggression?

Are you Foldn? That sounds like one hell of a demand.

Foldn was asked specifically for "one example" of "bad stuff happening."

Foldn claimed victory when citing a sensitivity seminar saying "America is the land of opportunity" is an example of a microaggression.

Clearly that has to be a bad thing! Maybe the injury is me reading posts?

Maybe we're in agreement on free speech. Would you agree banning microagressions is a form of censorship? If so, and I'm not entirely against all forms of censorship, but we should probably take what we deem necessary for censorship seriously. So when I read that some schools are considering banning thoughts like "America is the land of opportunity," or "I believe the most qualified person should get the job," I say the best thing for me to do is point out that's kinda messed up. Are we still in agreement on free speech?

So we're going backwards a fair bit. You're not saying Foldn is demanding anything anymore?

How would you take it if it was an example of 'silly stuff' rather than 'bad stuff'?

Citation mother****ing needed here buddy.

GIFSoup

You seem to be struggling with what "banning" means.

Things that aren't banning.

1. Giving students a chance to opt out of books.
2. Students not laughing at gay chinaman jokes.
3. Someone calling things microagressions in a training session.

Dude.

URL=gifsoup.com IMG=gifsoup.com/gif.gif URL=gifsoup.com GIFSoup? Have you always been this terrible at the internet or are you just super ****ing rustled right now?

Wat?

Ahahshahahahaha. Why, per chance, do you believe they were discussing those microaggression, lol, like uh, so they could chuckle about them like we are?

What?

I don't think you should post dumb stuff. I tell you that. Am I banning you?

Hi again! Good points, yes kids are dumb and will get things wrong. But if you don't bother telling them why they're wrong, even at the risk it could trigger them or some such sadness, then how will they know they're wrong?

Again, there are tons more examples. I mean, I just reached in and grabbed the first few I found from one article at the request, no demands, of some posters here. I know I said I don't want to do your homework for you, but hell I've become obsessed at watching smart people like you and wook stumble over each other to agree to disagree or disagree to agree with me or whatever. Shall I grab another messed up example?

Even among the subset of people who talk about microaggressions (hint: this group itself is very small), almost none of them support banning them. They just want to call it out. And, inexplicably, you are just ultra rustled that these people exist at all.

You grabbed an example where nothing bad happened to anyone except your Jimmies...

So, yeah. Maybe try again instead of football spiking like some weirdo?

Just in case you weren't aware, the colleges were discussing whether professors or students should be allowed to say those dumb things, like you know, America is a land of opportunity. They were considering calling that a microaggression, something you could be punished for saying on campus. Hope that clears things up.