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04-06-2016 , 05:21 PM
Nah, they probably have better things to do than get into twitter wars with 20 yr old infants, and risk tanking their careers over some bs taken out of context. I don't blame them.
04-06-2016 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark




Telling you to get the stick out your ass is not like asking for a safe space, lol.
I know right? You can't even rape someone and chalk it up to bitches be lyin these days without mean liberals shouting you down.
04-06-2016 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Nah, they probably have better things to do than get into twitter wars with 20 yr old infants, and risk tanking their careers over some bs taken out of context. I don't blame them.
Ok? If this is true I have no idea why anyone would care about it
04-06-2016 , 05:26 PM
Ask our president.
04-06-2016 , 05:34 PM
#ALLSTANDUPSMATTER
04-06-2016 , 05:35 PM
Except Hannibal Buress. That guys hits too close to home for some of our SMP friends.
04-06-2016 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
It's actually still more of the old, religious conservatives banning stuff and restricting speech, but these days they tend to focus more on what kids are allowed to see/read. Look up a list of widely banned books, they're almost exclusively from highschools and due to too much violence, sex, etc. There are notable exceptions, like Huck Finn, because of the n-word, but with kids it's mostly the bible thumpers' concerns addressed. There's also movie ratings, and TVMA stuff, all catered to parents for children. We had Nancy Reagan in the 80's censoring rap songs for awhile, but that got squashed fairly quickly. Howard Stern thrived and America stuck it's finger up to the moral facists.

The part that is new(ish) and coming mostly from the left is attempts to censor adults by way of infantilizing them, turning arguments away from discussing them by their merits, and instead substituting level of offense taken as a means to restrict free speech. How big of a problem this has become is up for debate, and I won't claim to know from my living room, but I don't expect it to get far. There's too much respect for the first amendment in this country, in fact, it could be considered more than any other thing what this nation was founded on.
What are the 'old religious conservatives' banning in 2016? I'm guessing the answer is not: HBO, rap, zombies, video games, porn, or modern art. I can't find the speaker who was run off a college campus for being pro-gay marriage but could probably find 20 the other direction. That is because campus liberals try to disrupt and silence opposing views. Not to refute the argument with one of their own but to prevent it from being made.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Allowed by *who*?

Also they still make James Bond movies.
Allowed by the people who decide what gets on tv and what does not.

Yes I saw it. I didn't see any ass slaps of Pussy Galore but I did see the one consensual kiss of menopausal madam.
04-06-2016 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Actually that's pretty silly. College age kids generally love Louis CK, Chris Rock, et al. Those comedians quit touring colleges because of a few douchebags who runied it for the rest of them.
LOL Chris Rock and Seinfeld have combined for what, two tours in the last decade? They sell out arenas. You really think in the one tourney every 7 or 8 years they do they're made about not being able to play a 1000 person venue when they sell out 20k capacity ones at triple the ticket price?

Please check how many tours each have had since this has been an issue. Show me one venue under 5k either have played since. Please.
The fact you guys are falling for something that doesn't pass any smell test is lol.
04-06-2016 , 06:07 PM
^ this seems more likely than much else. Plus if they get grief at college gigs now then they probably always did. The same world looks a lot different when a star than how it looked while trying to carve out a career.
04-06-2016 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Nah, they probably have better things to do than get into twitter wars with 20 yr old infants, and risk tanking their careers over some bs taken out of context. I don't blame them.
What in the love of Christ are you talking about?
04-06-2016 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
LOL Chris Rock and Seinfeld have combined for what, two tours in the last decade? They sell out arenas. You really think in the one tourney every 7 or 8 years they do they're made about not being able to play a 1000 person venue when they sell out 20k capacity ones at triple the ticket price?



Please check how many tours each have had since this has been an issue. Show me one venue under 5k either have played since. Please.

The fact you guys are falling for something that doesn't pass any smell test is lol.

Meh, maybe so, but this is what they said. You can read their quotes ITT. Maybe they're lying, but why would they? Apparently the college circuit can be pretty lucrative. I read some pay $30K a gig. Amy Shumer still does them and she's pretty big. Then again she got hit recently with a bunch of this same bs and I'd be surprised if she doesn't quit soon too.
04-06-2016 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
^ this seems more likely than much else. Plus if they get grief at college gigs now then they probably always did. The same world looks a lot different when a star than how it looked while trying to carve out a career.

Maybe so, but that's not what they say when you read their quotes. Sounds like it's something that started past 15 years or so. I guess they could be lying for some unknown reason.
04-06-2016 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Allowed by the people who decide what gets on tv and what does not.
I'm still not sure what you're mad about here. The FCC? Studio standards people? Those were all far more strict in the past.

(P.S. What he's actually mad about is the Jews running Hollywood but lol he's too much of coward to spit that out)


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Yes I saw it. I didn't see any ass slaps of Pussy Galore but I did see the one consensual kiss of menopausal madam.
Hahaha holy **** are you mad that Monica Bellucci was the Bond girl in Spectre? That's the weirdest right wing plen-t-plaint I've ever heard of.


Basic cable shows have sex scenes in prime time that are far more risque than any 60s Bond film, though, seriously, what the **** are you talking about?
04-06-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Actually that's pretty silly. College age kids generally love Louis CK, Chris Rock, et al. Those comedians quit touring colleges because of a few douchebags who runied it for the rest of them.
Just to remind everyone, this is absolute fiction.


Funny, isn't it, the way that FoldN immediately not just accepts but exaggerates the social ills that hypothetical SJW hecklers might put on standups who haven't done a college show since the Clinton administration...

but if a black person starts whining about "racism", well, we get this thread. So oversensitive!

FoldN, you've never fooled anyone. That's the takeaway here. Nobody has ever thought you were actually sincerely concerned with the state of campus discourse, or civility on the internet, or any of the other stalking horses you pick for your real character trait:

Vile white supremacy. There is no FoldNDark without the bigotry lol it's your entire personality.
04-06-2016 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I'm still not sure what you're mad about here. The FCC? Studio standards people? Those were all far more strict in the past.

(P.S. What he's actually mad about is the Jews running Hollywood but lol he's too much of coward to spit that out)




Hahaha holy **** are you mad that Monica Bellucci was the Bond girl in Spectre? That's the weirdest right wing plen-t-plaint I've ever heard of.


Basic cable shows have sex scenes in prime time that are far more risque than any 60s Bond film, though, seriously, what the **** are you talking about?
Obviously the decrease in outright misogyny on television is because of the radical leftist cabal and not because of more people being decent human beings.
04-06-2016 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
What are the 'old religious conservatives' banning in 2016? I'm guessing the answer is not: HBO, rap, zombies, video games, porn, or modern art. I can't find the speaker who was run off a college campus for being pro-gay marriage but could probably find 20 the other direction. That is because campus liberals try to disrupt and silence opposing views. Not to refute the argument with one of their own but to prevent it from being made.
Note, I'm not comparing the ideologies, but if the klan was invited by the local chapter of whatever fraternity to discuss the intellectually stimulating topic of how white people shouldn't breed with black people, would protesting and silencing those voices be okay?

Is a university really the place to hash out whatever tired hate speech any random group of bigots wants to air? Or are some arguments so old, tired, and defeated that even giving them a platform is insulting to the very idea of academia?
04-06-2016 , 06:44 PM
Uh, ok lol. Fly gonna fly. Anyway, anybody is welcome to read the quotes from Chris Rock, Louis CK, and others like The President of the United States posted ITT and show me which parts I'm misinterpreting.
04-06-2016 , 06:46 PM
I have no idea what your interpretation of those quotes is. Why don't you start there?
04-06-2016 , 06:51 PM
I still don't even understand what is special about a college show that makes it unusually non-racist joke friendly, where you can "tank your career" because of one douchebag or whatever.

What if that douchebag just buys a ticket to the arena show? Can't he still do whatever damage it is that we're imagining here?
04-06-2016 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
I'm not doing any more work for you. This is it. http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...cademia_s.html
Lol man. Surprised no one else responded to this. Probably because you are too lazy/scared to actually post examples after your "Chris Rock heard about schools being PC and shook his fist at a cloud" and "giving students opt outs on Things Fall Apart = book burning" debacles.

But... wtf dude? Did you read the article? One. It's a completely unsourced blog. Two. It seems completely based on the views of the fired teacher and three. It includes the school response...

"*LSU has issued the following statement:

Recent news reports about the termination of one of LSU’s professors have not been entirely factual. Teresa Buchanan was not terminated due to isolated incidents. LSU has documented evidence of a history of inappropriate behavior that included verbal abuse, intimidation and harassment of our students.

LSU has been concerned about this matter for quite some time, and*after complaints from students and educational providers,*we took the appropriate steps, including removing her from the classroom since December 2013. In addition to LSU’s own findings, a review by her faculty peers found that Dr. Buchanan violated policies regarding student harassment.

Dr. Buchanan created a consistently hostile and abusive environment in the classroom. Additionally, she was asked not to return to more than one elementary school in the Baton Rouge area within the last three years because of her inappropriate behavior.*Based upon this consistent pattern of hostile and abusive behavior that negatively impacted LSU students, we believed it was necessary to terminate her employment.*

LSU does not normally comment on matters that involve potential litigation, but we believe it’s important to state the facts in order to correct some misperceptions regarding this issue. This case is not about the rights of tenured professors or academic freedom, as some of the press have reported. LSU had an obligation to take action on this matter. We take our responsibility to protect students from abusive behavior very seriously, and we will vigorously defend our students’ rights to a harassment-free educational environment"

She was banned from not one, but multiple ****ing primary schools!! What kind of crazy do you think she was?"

Just.... so.... much.... fail.

Go on now. Any other examples? After this example you need to actually post in the thread, because your links are dog ****.

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04-06-2016 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Obviously the decrease in outright misogyny on television is because of the radical leftist cabal and not because of more people being decent human beings.
The insane thing is that there's still plenty of misogyny and racism on TV, but even setting that aside, who can complain about the lack of Pussy Galore in a world where HBO shows have full frontal nudity every week?

Very specifically is it just about the pun-based character name thing? Because I don't think that's political correctness, they stopped doing that with like the Dalton movies.
04-06-2016 , 06:55 PM
I'm surprised one of the usual suspects hasn't claimed that comics want to avoid campuses out of fear that they will be accused of rape if they chase after some college pussy.
04-06-2016 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
What are the 'old religious conservatives' banning in 2016? I'm guessing the answer is not: HBO, rap, zombies, video games, porn, or modern art. I can't find the speaker who was run off a college campus for being pro-gay marriage but could probably find 20 the other direction. That is because campus liberals try to disrupt and silence opposing views. Not to refute the argument with one of their own but to prevent it from being made.
Back to the old "freedom of speech only applies to the people making terrible points/arguments, not those who use their own free speech to protest them" argument as well as "liberals are the worst because we can't even make racist and misogynistic jokes anymore." Like we don't have to be having debates about gay marriage and people who think black are inferior; those people lost and there is no actual point in listening to them anymore. I'm sure there are perfectly reasonable examples of people who unpopular viewpoints being "silenced" (maybe a pro-Palestine speaker?) but no one has been able to actually cite anything of substance.
04-06-2016 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rugby
Go on now. Any other examples? After this example you need to actually post in the thread, because your links are dog ****.
Yes, there are more examples posted itt. I'm sorry if I don't post enough for you, I've only spent like two days and 100 or so posts itt. Jesus. This isn't my bag man, I post like 5-10 times a day tops. Feel free to make up your mind however hell you want, bro, read or ignore whatever you want. I posted a bunch of links and quotes to show a lot of people are taking notice of this college stick in ass phenomenon. Including many liberal columnists, professors and The President of the United ****ing States.

Maybe it's no big deal. Wtf do I know.
04-06-2016 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Yes, there are more examples posted itt. I'm sorry if I don't post enough for you, I've only spent like two days and 100 or so posts itt. Jesus. This isn't my bag man, I post like 5-10 times a day tops. Feel free to make up your mind however hell you want, bro, read or ignore whatever you want. I posted a bunch of links and quotes to show a lot of people are taking notice of this college stick in ass phenomenon. Including many liberal columnists, professors and The President of the United ****ing States.

Maybe it's no big deal. Wtf do I know.
All your examples are people saying "Hey, we probably shouldn't do this thing (silencing opposing viewpoints)" with virtually no examples of safe spaces resulting in actual banning of speech.

      
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