Why wouldn't it?

I read an article on 538 awhile back that atheists are discriminated in this country more than any other religion. My wife is a atheist. She got fired from a job a few years ago because she told a co worker who had power and influence in the company that she was atheist. They laid her off because production was down that wasn't the true reason though. They were talking about hiring her full time a week prior.

Yeah, she won’t do that again. She might have a case but most states are at-will which means you need really solid evidence, like a paper trail to move forward with it. That’s why you don’t talk at religion at work.

This isn't a first amendment issue. It's a civil rights issue. But as kerowo said, you need a paper trail, or a union, in order to combat this.

Man color me shocked that it took so long to bump this thread about the woman who flipped off Trump getting fired, or that billionaire's ads being uninvited by Fox News, and that I had to be the one to speak up for their speech.

I skimmed the story and something about her boss or some higher up at work having plastered his social media with profane rants about BLM and liberals and not getting disciplined or fired.

Alice Walker, author of The Color Purple, disinvited from Michigan over Israel opposition

This came to my attention from Greenwald, one of Foldn's heroes, in this tweet where he says "much, if not most, of campus censorship is aimed at censoring and suppressing the left"

That's actually from 2013. It looks like another university organization ended up inviting her to campus.

It's old?! You mean Foldn managed to completely leave out this egregious violation of FREE SPEECH?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=xdeu6meGRnU more tolerant liberals at work

I agree with Somigosaden here. It's perfectly reasonable to be liberal but point out the absurdity of certain stances that have become prevalent on the left in recent years.

The very term Liberal has been hijacked to a certain extent. If you're anti free speech you aren't Liberal, so stop using the word.

The classic Sklansky defence. I'm just calling balls and strikes guys. I don't even care which team is pitching.

Nobody disagrees with this. However, there is also a distinct pattern of certain posters who are otherwise indistinguishable from right wing trolls, doing all sorts of ridiculous blasting of right wing talking points, using highly specific right wing vocabulary the average person doesn't even know like "victicratic", and then pretending to genuinely left wing. As Wookie points out, we've had people on the forum pretending they voted obama when you can literally go to the election night threads and see they said the opposite.

However, this is all a bit moot. I'm happy to suspend disbelief and presume somigosaden is just a genuine progressive or whatever else he wants to call himself. His arguments ITT have still been the absurd ones, not the other way around.

I'd love to hear some absurd mainstream liberal stances.

Show me what ya got.

I have no idea what this means but seems like an insult. Maybe not the best way to try and get your point across.

I think you'll find quite a few prominent figures on the left who disagree with the definitions of free speech. If it was a fringe movement I wouldn't bother giving it the time of day.

I have no idea what "victicratic" means and feel free to check my posting history.

I was fairly sure I read posts from Somi where he said he was pro choice/gay rights/gun control laws etc. He didn't seem to be ticking many conservative boxes other than criticising AOC (of which she def deserves) maybe I'm wrong and someone can highlight a right wing post of his.

All of the anti free speech actions such as speakers being deplatformed, comedians being forced to apologise for jokes or things like "safe spaces" are entirely of the left.

The obvious double standard you see when secular individuals criticise Islam and get labelled as "islamaphobic".

Things like cultural appropriation/the twitter mob going after Navratilova for common sense approach to transgender athletes in women's sports. Again all stances held almost entirely by the left.

Everyone on this forum could have predicted the entirety of this platform. In fact it's so on the nose that I'm assigning a not insignificant chance that you are straight up trolling. Does that give you pause?

So your response is what? You're aware of all the valid criticisms of the left.

sure.

A bunch of college kids you can't name is not identifying mainstream liberals and you have no idea if they are "left" or not.

maybe try offering something of substance instead

I don't need to know the names of college kids to know professors have had to retire/resign because of such instances. Or that they've caused 100k+ damage during a deplatforming protest.

And yes of course I know they are politically on the left when the speaker being deplatformed is conservative.

Even if these were actually mainstream Democratic positions, they wouldn't even crack the top 500 issues in this country.

Glass houses friend. Try not being a lock step carbon copy astroturfed sheeple and you might be worth responding to.

Buildings get knocked down all the time GWB. This was 9/11, show some respect.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.705c3aad0379

I think you'd struggle to find 500 or even 50 more important than free speech.


I've given you a list of issues the left fails on, and you've offered nothing in return other than emojis.

What stances exactly? The actual fact that all of the domestic terrorism last year was from white supremicists? Is that something that is perfectly reasonable to point out the absurdity to when we know its true?

Or maybe that white people are at a disadvantage in politics when they still hold greater than 70 percent representation? Is that absurd in your book?