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09-24-2011 , 07:29 PM

#4326

seattlelou

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Originally Posted by ALawPoker

IMO RP runs third party, economy is terrible, Obama wins 3-way vote and everyone blames RP for Obama winning

I don't think that is likely. His son is kinda being held hostage by the party.

09-24-2011 , 08:08 PM

#4327

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If he doesn't get the GOP nomination I think he runs as a 3rd party. If he doesn't get elected POTUSA he's retiring, so this is basically his last hurrah, and he's all about educating people and trying to get people to change their minds on goverment, so why wouldn't he stay in the public light as long as possible?

09-24-2011 , 08:39 PM

#4328

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From LC thread

Pro Paul media bias getting out of control

UPDATE: The full results, from the Republican Party of Florida --

1. Herman Cain, 37.1%
2. Rick Perry, 15.4%
3. Mitt Romney, 14%
4. Ron Paul, 10.4%
5. Rick Santorum, 10.9%
6. Newt Gingrich, 8.4%
7. Jon Huntsman, 2.3%
8. Michele Bachmann, 1.5%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/

09-24-2011 , 08:48 PM

#4329

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Originally Posted by LirvA

I think Paul realizes that libertarianism can be more influential and last a lot longer as a part of the GOP than as a standalone party. Rand Paul will run in the future. Best to establish a base for a future run.

09-24-2011 , 08:59 PM

#4330

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Only problem with that though is Rand isn't as libertarian as his father.

09-24-2011 , 09:29 PM

#4331

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Originally Posted by LirvA

Only problem with that though is Rand isn't as libertarian as his father.

Yeah, but compare him to everyone else. He's probably the most libertarian Senator.

09-25-2011 , 10:04 AM

#4332

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daily show is tomorrow

09-25-2011 , 12:01 PM

#4333

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SNL mocks the GOP candidates, Ron Paul at 9:10 mark.

Black THIS Out MoneyBomb Video

09-25-2011 , 01:02 PM

#4334

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k donating this time

09-25-2011 , 04:55 PM

#4335

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwallie

Jesus. Every ****ing candidate says that. It doesn't make it true when they say it, it doesn't make it true when RP says it. All kinds of underdog candidates act like that.

Honestly you are reeeaalllyyy drinking the Kool-Aid here.

P.S. I'm a RP supporter, just sometimes you guys really over-do it and have a fit when anyone points out there could be some flaws in RP and he isn't the "ideal" candidate but is indeed the best.

The reason people believe it when RP says it is that they believe RP really is a libertarian and libertarians believe in that ****. Liberarians are super idealistic and really just love people. If RP is really just a politician using libertarianism to further his own quest for power and money then no, you shouldn't believe it, but that doesn't really make any sense, does it? If he were just a power hungry politician, he wouldn't say a lot of the things he does.

09-25-2011 , 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwallie

The thing is, no one knows Obama didn't want to change things.

No, anyone with a clue knew Obama wasn't changing anything. You're trying to compare Obama saying things to RP and it just doesn't work. Obama talked just like a politician. RP does not. Politicians answer questions with wandering BS, like Obama did, not with a statement that might make them look crazy to lots of people like Ron Paul. This is why people know he's really sincere. Furthermore, dishonest politicians simply aren't going to be supporting libertarianism at a national level. There's NO PROFIT in it!!!

09-25-2011 , 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

That's just false. It is certainly possible, and fairly common, to be a christian but have no doubts that evolution is an adequate explanation for speciation and features of DNA etc.

THE TWO ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!

09-25-2011 , 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AIRJAVI

does anyone else noticed like on the comments on yahoo and other major websites that have risk perry n mitt romney everyone says they agree with Ron Paul? wtf Why does the media block him I honestly don't get it. He is our only hope all these other guys are terrible My GOD!! How can the American People be so blinded

All of that is largely irrelevant. Ron Paul has a vastly disproportionate amount of support on the Internet compared to his real world support. Considering Ron Paul's ideas are so idiotic, this obviously means that people on the Internet are vastly more stupid and ignorant than those who aren't.

09-25-2011 , 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexM

THE TWO ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!

Right, which is why my post is correct.

09-25-2011 , 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AKSpartan

Seriously, so ironic that Ron Paul of all people made an ad about giving out medals.

This ad seems worthless to me (other than getting his name out there, which ANY ad accomplishes of course). I'd like to see some ads that highlight how massively in debt we are and how unsustainable our current spending is and how Ron Paul is the only candidate who actually gives a ****. Then, again, ads are too short to actually relay any real information, so lol ads...

LOL at you trying to use information relevant to how he'd be as president to appeal to people. That's the kind of thing that works on people that commercials don't work on!

I thought this ad was amazing. It's exactly the kind of thing that appeals to people who actually buy more Coke because they see a Coke commercial even though everyone in the ****ing world has known everything they need to know about Coke for 50 years.

09-25-2011 , 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

Right, which is why my post is correct.

No, you said the statement "It's impossible to be a Christian and not believe in creationism in some for or another." was false. You are wrong. All Christians are creationists. That's part of what being a Christian is. Then you said something entirely irrelevant to support your position that this was false.

09-25-2011 , 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexM

You are wrong. You may not consider them fellow christians or whatever, but that doesn't really matter to me, or other people in the thread. And either way it is not super relevant to the discussion, so I won't respond further.

09-25-2011 , 05:27 PM

#4343

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Originally Posted by ASPoker8

I'm gonna reg R for the FL primary, vote Ron Paul, unregister immediately after, and then not vote in the presidential election.

Do not unregister. Registered voters not voting counts against the U.S. government in relevant statistics while unregistered people are completely ignored. People who are against voting only have that disbelief noted if they are registered.

09-25-2011 , 05:28 PM

#4344

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

Fellow Christians? I'm as unreligious as they come. Explain to me how you can be a Christian and not believe God created the world?

09-25-2011 , 05:29 PM

#4345

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Originally Posted by tzwien

Well, Fox News took down their article and poll about last night's debate because Paul was killing it again. Here's an article with the stats before it was taken down. Lol MSM.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/insta...-debate-again/

Of course he was. Online polls are ******ed and pointless. I don't understand why the MSM bothers posting them in the first place. People who vote in online polls on media websites are educated and informed and are thus a horrible representation of the public.

09-25-2011 , 05:30 PM

#4346

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well you can not believe in the bible and still think Christ is the son of god.

09-25-2011 , 05:34 PM

#4347

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

well you can not believe in the bible and still think Christ is the son of god.

Who cares about the Bible? If God didn't create the world, wtf is the point of him/her?

09-25-2011 , 05:37 PM

#4348

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Originally Posted by AlexM

Fellow Christians? I'm as unreligious as they come.

Sorry, thought you were a christian based on your posts.

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Explain to me how you can be a Christian and not believe God created the world?

Creationism usually means an opposition to evolution and common descent. One can be a christian and understand that evolution as a theory about the origin of species is obviously correct.