Please fly, save the holier than though bull****. I'm very self-aware. I have empathy for those less fortunate and I would like to think I'm more than a decent human being. Maybe part of me is just tired of the crap that everyone pulls. People complain about their station in life yet they are willing to do nothing about it. They complain about their self inflicted problems and talk about how everyone else is so much better off than they are when those jobs and education levels are attainable to many of them if they are simply willing to put in the work. I don't sit here and bitch about people who have MBAs and make more money than me because I can go invest the 3 years of getting an MBA if I wanted to, but I just don't feel like going through all that so I accept it.

It just gets old after a while listening to the same people complain about the same crap and then they take their fat ass home to their fat wives and their fat kids and won't get off their ass and develop a skill set to get a better job. I'm not talking about the people with serious issues, I'm talking about the ones who are smart and talented but just not willing to put in the effort.

When you talk about self-awareness maybe you should start preaching to the people who REALLY need to be more self-aware, the ones who need to increase their incomes.

I realize I'm pretty lucky and life is pretty decent for me but it gets tiresome when someone says "you got it" when it comes to bills and financing tuition expenses. Stress doesn't stop at this magical arbitrary number.

Seriously dude is everything OK? Like at home, at work, is something going on you need to talk to someone about? I don't mean in this forum, I mean like a trusted family member or a qualified professional.

Because remember when you were all "I don't have scorn for the poors"?

What the **** are you talking about?

AFAIK tracking back your posts in this thread, what started this breakdown was a discussion about whether 120k was "middle class" or "upper middle class" and whether 200k was "upper middle class" or "rich". From that incredibly banal and pointless discussion you've gone on like a 50 post temper tantrum.

The only person, and I mean only person, complaining about their financial situation is you.

^^ Holy ****

Edit: @wil's meltdown

Cliff's:
Nope

And nope.

Maybe you're right and I'm completely out of touch. I'll go drown my sorrows in Johnny Walker Blue and think about it for a while.

Lol blends.

May I recommend Laphroig and pepsi?

There is a lot to be said for just giving people money and not trying to micromanage their lives. If you adopt the attitude that poor people need to be told how to live, you're basically blaming them for being poor. Poverty is the cause of the problems in most poor peoples' lives, not a symptom.

Yes this.

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/8/6003359/...stions-explain

Question 1: CPS gets involved and the kids go into foster care, just like now.

Question 2: We treat that person for their medical needs anyway, just like now.

Honestly Johnny Walker Blue is the best alcohol I've ever tasted in my life.

Um, yes? With the caveat that we try to not let kids suffer too much from their parents' mistakes, and we don't let people die in the street.

After years of insisting that "TAXATION IS THEFT!", it seems incongruous to me that Libertarian pvn is a big fan of UBI. Like, where is the money for the handouts supposed to come from?

Ok, I'm convinced now. You're definitely not rich.

Just give everyone health insurance like pretty much every developed nation other than the US does. Don't include that in UBI.

I don't think UBI was ever intended to be a replacement for healthcare.

I agree my UBI plan would not include the option to take money in lieu of health care.

That would just be dumb unless you plan to let people die in the streets. Just treat them like everyone else does. Such a no brainer.

How is this situation any worse with a universal income?

My god @ wil

Just skimming but this isn't true. MW doesn't actually cover every worker.

UBI would dovetail nicely with a consumer-focused approach to healthcare like the one described in this old but great Atlantic article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true

No.

Burger Flipping Robot

Give the manager some training on operation and maintenance of these robots. Give franchise owners access to cheap money to borrow for making the capital investment. Fire the burger flippers.

rather than actual discussion on an issue, adios goes with the "well these ****ing worthless people shouldnt have jobs, look at this robot, maybe now all the fast food workers will be motivated to get educations and real jobs"