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08-08-2018 , 04:33 PM
A few years ago in Chicago, an angry mob gathered outside of a stadium to stop hate speech that was about to take place. The talk was cancelled and the protestors all patted themselves on the back for stopping the spread of hatred. They said the guy was a nazi kkk racist and decided no one should have to listen to his hate. But the speaker was not a nazi, or a member of the kkk, he was the republican presidential candidate.

So it really didn’t take long before hate speech turned into politics, and I’d imagine as we go forward, the two will be intertwined more and more. And who writes the laws in America? Corporations, big money. But I’m sure they will keep your best interests in mind when writing new laws to use against you and stay in power.
08-08-2018 , 04:44 PM
ffs Wookie, Loki, anyone:

08-08-2018 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
Look it up. this was about 2 years ago or so
I dd try to look it up. Only a for a few minutes but nothing seemed to quite match up. Can you help me out with the name?
08-08-2018 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
there is many subjects nobody is allowed to have an opinion on here or they get banned.

For example if a person talks about welfare rates in usa.. they will actually get banned for that on here.. right?

I was talking about the Latino welfare rate in usa on here while back and the mods actually banned me for just talking about the numbers on this.

Nuts right?
You probably said something dumb and racist, so not really?
08-08-2018 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
Lol hate speech.

More like people like you are free speech nazi's u mean.
Why not debate them if they are so stupid? Debate.. take them on.
Dont ban or censor opinions.

If you dont like what they say then ignore them. duh.
So trump should have let the angry mob in and had a debate with them? That may not have worked here as there were thousands of protestors. If the mob wants to talk, they can rent the arena the next week and say their piece. But this was his turn to speak, and he was stopped in the name of “hate speech”.

I can’t ignore what he says if he isn’t given a chance to speak, duh
08-08-2018 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
AfD politician 'censored' under new German hate speech law for anti-Muslim tweet

Beatrix von Storch
Ok i did find that. he said soemthign very different to "Muslims were taking over his city". I wont repeat it but it's easy to find for anyone interested.

fwiw I'm very happy with that being covered by hate speech laws.
08-08-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
This is a similiar case.
What about the mayor you told us was arrested? You said "look it up", but you can't even find it yourself?

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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
The left is calling everything hate speech even facts.
For example if somebody says that 80% of muslims in europe on welfare they might consider that hate speech now in Europe.
Is that a fact?
08-08-2018 , 04:56 PM
btw are you Bulgarian by chance?
08-08-2018 , 05:00 PM
You claimed something happened, and when asked for more detail, told everyone else to look it up.

I'm...not sure you understand how this works? The burden of proof is on you to defend your claims. You made a very specific claim, that a mayor in Germany was arrested, and it appears you can't support that claim.
08-08-2018 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
The burden is on me LOL LOL LOL
Uh, yeah. Otherwise I can just say everything you're posting is wrong, look it up. Oh you can't find it? I guess you suck at the internet, too bad, I'm still right and you're still wrong.

That's basically what you're doing here. Is this how you debated thousands of people? I don't think you did very well in those debates.
08-08-2018 , 05:10 PM
flakesban
08-08-2018 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
Have u seen how Europe is voting now?

Akkeson is about to win next month in Sweden..

Seems like most people dont like muslim immigration over there anymore on average.
The re-emergence of the far right is deeply alarming. And yes there's a lot of racism/etc about.
08-08-2018 , 05:22 PM
tell us more about some of these areas
08-08-2018 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
Lol duh

This is true because the truth is not all races are the same genetically in many areas.

U can call names all you want but most people realize its true.
Not interested in calling people names but that is the definition of racism. You openly self-identify as a racist.

Politically, we have to beat you. The alternative is catastrophic for all of us including your lot.
08-08-2018 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
tell us more about some of these areas
I did 23&me and they could tell about my background from my genes. Not sure exactly how it works, but there must be some differences if they are able to break down the genetics so reliably. Or is it all a scam?
08-08-2018 , 05:50 PM
All of this race stuff is off topic for this thread. I'd be happy to discuss some of it, or even debate, but it ought to happen somewhere else, and I suspect that "somewhere else" is not in this forum.

If you want to understand the relationship between racial categories and genetics, this is a reasonably good place to start, although it may take some work if you have very little background in the subject.
08-08-2018 , 05:57 PM
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If people like me are so stupid.. WHY is everybody so scared to debate us and have to ban us? hmm think about it

why not debate us and make us look dumb?
You do not debate in good faith. You ask others to do background work for you. It gets boring after many many times. You are dumb and not capable of learning from new information presented (please allow me my opinion, dummy). Go away.
08-08-2018 , 06:02 PM
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They can easily tell what race you are from your genes.

Thats why its such a joke when people act like all races are identical.

No one is making that claim. So this is a lie. Why should anyone take the time to debate you when you are either profoundly dumb or very dishonest?
08-08-2018 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
Sure debate me on Liberal Forum dot org

they have free speech there and people can say anything they want

its nice..

PeteCook on there
Ok. You should start a thread there. I presume in the "no holds barred" forum. You should expect my participation to be slower than your posting rate in this thread.

In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop derailing my thread.
08-08-2018 , 06:06 PM
(ahem)
08-08-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
They can easily tell what race you are from your genes.
My gf has two cousins who are each half Brazilian, born to the same parents. One is relatively dark. The other is pretty white. Looking at them based on skin color, you would guess they aren't even related.

But hey, look at their (extremely similar) genes and it will tell you what "race" they are, if they're "white" or "brown", lol
08-08-2018 , 06:10 PM
do it
08-08-2018 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flakesbran2
You are so naive LOL LOL

U think i could actually debate this on here and not get banned?

how naive are you dude?

You actually think its really No holds barred around here? LOL LOL LOL LOL

are you serious?

go to liberal forum dot org .. they let people say anything you want on there.

they actually allow free speech there. Petecook on there so
You need to slow down and read more closely. I asked you to start a thread *on liberalforum.org*, as per your request! In the forum literally called the No Holds Barred Political Forum. And I also asked you to stop cluttering up this thread.
08-08-2018 , 06:12 PM
WN, do you regret the decision you made to not become Chief Operating Officer of your alternative politics forum?
08-08-2018 , 06:13 PM
He spend many years study race science but no many years study English

      
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