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02-09-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Again, you guys tossing around terms to try to shut people up in here...
M.Yiannopoulos doesn't post here, fool.

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... stay classy san diego.
We always do.
02-09-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Again, you guys tossing around terms to try to shut people up in here is one thing. It keeps your bubble squeaky clean, and your minds clouded, but is otherwise harmless. Calling everyone white supremacist neo nazi fascists and egging on illiberal violent tactics is another level. This country is between a rock and a hard place, and we've got a really long way to go. Legit scared. Not planning to eat a ban today, so stay classy san diego.
Thanks for dropping in and giving us our dose of your worries.
02-09-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Dude, you asked for citations about Milo fitting that term, and they were provided. YOU were the one who said if Milo called for ethnic cleansing, you would consider him a fascist. That proved false.
But this is what you do. You say people who want to enforce the laws of our country against illegal immigration are in favor of "ethnic cleansing." I disagree with them too, strongly, but they are not "trying to cleanse this country of ethnic groups". You stretch the definition to fit your political stance. You put words in their mouths in order to toss them into the same basket of deplorables as white supremacists. I'm sorry, but I doubt the majority of Trump supporters want to "ethnically cleanse" our nation, despite what you think, and I've seen no evidence Milo does either.

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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
I don't see the sky falling in this spot. And I don't see a way of stopping it without doing something worse.
That's the problem. Violent protests will only benefit Trump. He will use them to rally support and we'll not be rid of him for eight years if you keep trying to fight fire with fire. He may just build an autocracy with your help.

Y'all don't even know what a liberal is. Keep protesting, but condemn violence and those who incite it on both sides. Let them be the bad guys. That's how we put someone like Warren in the White House.
02-09-2017 , 03:06 PM
Make a new thread where FoldNAIDS can be contained plz
02-09-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil




So this is going on in my town right now. A woman with 2 children who are US citizens, who has been here 22 years, since she was 14, is being deported. They say she has a felony conviction from 2009 for "criminal impersonation." [Not clear in the stories I've seen, but possibly that is for working using false ID.] Anyway, Trump will need those extra goons he wants to hire.



http://www.12news.com/news/local/val...ther/404420165

Any chance Democrats can capitalize on this? This is not what Trump would have had you picturing at all: deporting a mother of 2 who had been a working member of society. Sure like 90% of true Trumpkins will love it but gotta think there are at least SOME Republicans who will be turned off by this, no? Maybe I'm being too idealistic and this is what they all wanted this whole time
02-09-2017 , 03:16 PM
FoldN stop saying "we". You are the opposition. We want to defeat your most closely cherished principles.
02-09-2017 , 03:17 PM
LOL at ToothSayer, by the way. Man for as often as liberals get accused of throwing around terms like "white supremacist" willy-nilly we are shockingly ****ing accurate.
02-09-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
The obvious conclusion everyone with a brain reached 18 months ago is Chez likes white supremacists and wants their views present on 2p2.
It would've again, be so easy for chez to fool us on that front. Like if he wanted to, he could've let one racist get yelled at without scolding. Just like, one or two threads where he posted sincere anti-racism content. He just never worked up the courage for that, though. So here we sit, with ****ing ChezFront.
02-09-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
... condemn violence and those who incite it... Let them be the bad guys...
So you advocate for widespread shaming, including calling folks "bad guys", as a way to force others to comply.

Gotcha. Let's all 'shout down' those we have a disagreement with.
02-09-2017 , 03:27 PM


This protest has gathered a few hundred people. I see a few campus cops keeping an eye on it.
02-09-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Any chance Democrats can capitalize on this?...
The donkeys come along later. People are getting deported now. Those pipelines are going forward now. Waiting to the next POTUSBOWL isn't really an option. It's not a good option anyways.



The Deportation Industrial Complex is ripe for disruption. We don't need no stinkin' donkeys. We can bring the whole complex to its knees anytime we want. We should have already been doing so a lot more during the previous donkey POTUS.

The DIC can be legal-wrenched to a standstill. Outside of everyone insisting on all their due process, the DIC can be critically disrupted by just these kind of actions. Mass protests at detention facilities also up the costs. Detention facility strikes and inside disruption does too. Further, large segments of the DIC are privatised, and it all runs on slim margins, and on the cheap. Raise G4S's expenses 10%, they'll exit the business.

Speaking of raising G4S's expenses, the above pix are from a 2012 Tucson AZ action. About a dozen activists tied up an entire G4S bus depot. They finally cut the fence to get the buses out. G4S doesn't make a profit unless the busses are rolling. They didn't make a profit that day.

Last edited by Shame Trolly !!!1!; 02-09-2017 at 04:16 PM.
02-09-2017 , 04:07 PM
Grunching

Friendly tip from WI for whatever you guys are cooking up in here:

Activism that involves mostly name calling and making the lives of fellow citizens as inconvenient as possible won't get the results you're looking for.

Dems tried that here and all they wound up with was a lean-blue state swinging wildly to the right, building a massive GOP lead in both chambers of the legislature, the republican governor surviving a recall election by a wider victory margin than the initial election, and having a GOP presidential candidate win for the first time in 3 decades.

Voters don't respond well to full-blown Leftism.

Instead of just being a public nuisance, you should focus on explaining why the ideals of the Left will benefit society without creating more problems than they intend to solve.

Or maybe the 0.1% is now officially in charge of everything and WAATF. Either way, laying down in traffic and writing hateful messages to your classmates on Facebook about how racist/sexist they are isn't going to help.
02-09-2017 , 04:11 PM
Doesn't matter. Cheeseheads are gonna die soon enough with their tiny nostrils.
02-09-2017 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Grunching

Friendly tip from WI for whatever you guys are cooking up in here:

Activism that involves mostly name calling and making the lives of fellow citizens as inconvenient as possible won't get the results you're looking for.

Dems tried that here and all they wound up with was a lean-blue state swinging wildly to the right, building a massive GOP lead in both chambers of the legislature, the republican governor surviving a recall election by a wider victory margin than the initial election, and having a GOP presidential candidate win for the first time in 3 decades.

Voters don't respond well to full-blown Leftism.

Instead of just being a public nuisance, you should focus on explaining why the ideals of the Left will benefit society without creating more problems than they intend to solve.

Or maybe the 0.1% is now officially in charge of everything and WAATF. Either way, laying down in traffic and writing hateful messages to your classmates on Facebook about how racist/sexist they are isn't going to help.
Alternatively, the far right just spent most of the election making racist Pepe memes and they won control of the entire government, so maybe it's time for anyone who claims to know the real way to win elections to admit they don't know what they're talking about and STFU?
02-09-2017 , 04:24 PM
Guys, if you convenience the life on inso0 1% as much as the terrible policies of trump will, he will be forced to vote for trump again! (Spoiler: this vote is locked in already)
02-09-2017 , 04:24 PM
One big difference, though: the racist memes are coming from something people recognize as a tiny portion of the "far right" whereas the people calling ALL Trump supporters racist, sexist, homophobes are simply seen as democrats.

Your entire side of the aisle has been co-opted by the "far left" of years past, and you're losing now. It's not a coincidence.
02-09-2017 , 04:27 PM
Whenever I'm looking for insightful analysis of US political strategy I always wonder, "Hmm, what does Inso0 think?"
02-09-2017 , 04:27 PM
The head of your party calls opponents bad hombres, nasty women, sad, soft, liars, crooked, etc. He never laid out coherent policy objectives.
02-09-2017 , 04:27 PM
I went over to listen to a few of the speakers. The media had already left, except for 1 local tv camera guy.

ICE has already dropped that bad mujer in Nogales. I guess that's it. Only 9M-1 to go. ICE is ironically named. It's already warm here. Protests in Arizona later in the year are going to suck.
02-09-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
The obvious conclusion everyone with a brain reached 18 months ago is Chez likes white supremacists and wants their views present on 2p2.
Im ok with most people and I want to see all mainstream views represented in a politics forum while preventing the hateful and harmful posts aimed at vulnerable groups.

I'd love to be able to say that the American mainstream totally rejected trump and that everything he represents was fringe extremism but sadly thats not the case.

That's despite being very upset at and concerned about brexit and trump, and being as involved as I can in opposing them.
02-09-2017 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
One big difference, though: the racist memes are coming from something people recognize as a tiny portion of the "far right" whereas the people calling ALL Trump supporters racist, sexist, homophobes are simply seen as democrats.
I can't dispute that people might perceive it that way, but the perception that your average Democrat thinks all Trump supporters are racist, sexist homophobes is of course entirely false.

I wasn't dealing in perceptions in my post but if I were to phrase it the same as you, I easily could have left out the word "far" and still accurately described a lot of people's perceptions.
02-09-2017 , 04:46 PM
There's a website dedicated to DAPL protests. If you want to get on board that train, there are tons of events all over the country.

http://everydayofaction.org/

They're pushing hard for Not Really A Strike™ on the 17th, too.
02-09-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
The head of your party calls opponents bad hombres, nasty women, sad, soft, liars, crooked, etc. He never laid out coherent policy objectives.
Which is why I, and everyone I know assumed he would lose the election. I'm sure I can find posts by you and a dozen other 2p2 regulars explaining that HRC lost because of turnout. That's my point. The democrats are turning a lot of people off lately. People who have supported them in the past.


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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I can't dispute that people might perceive it that way, but the perception that your average Democrat thinks all Trump supporters are racist, sexist homophobes is of course entirely false.
I know that, you know that, but someone needs to tell that to the people who are out there on a daily basis claiming to represent the Democratic party.
02-09-2017 , 04:51 PM
I've been working today and haven't kept up, but that resistance to deporting that woman was helpful whether she was deported or not. Every time ICE or whoever wants to deport someone they have to decide whether there will be resistance and whether they want the hassle.
02-09-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
honestly don't have any idea what the links you posted are supposed to prove?
That the KKK didn't get runtofft until the home team came with the bats and bricks.

      
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