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02-02-2017 , 01:44 PM
Yeah just tell the staffer who picks up that you're concerned about X
02-02-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Like I implied before. You are divorced from reality.
The Boy Who Cried Wolf continues to be a text, literally a child's story one page long, that baffles the most esteemed intellects on the right.

Like, np, is the idea that you're going to vote in somebody MORE fascist than Trump next time?
02-02-2017 , 01:59 PM
Anarchists coming to the campus to turn a justified protest into a riot really has nothing to do with the Democratic party.

On the other hand, the College Republicans did go out of their way to invite this hatemonger to speak and give him the credibility of the Republican platform. Why isn't THAT a big story? Oh right because we already have Goebbels/a founder of Milo's hate site in the White House so this is just mainstream Republicanism these days, yawn. WAAF.
02-02-2017 , 02:05 PM
People can stop acting like Trump supporters are only doing so and digging in their heels as a response to protests from the left. These people have made it perfectly clear that they hate protest in all it's forms, despite pretending that they would totally be on the black people's side of the MLK marches. That said, there is a small but maybe not insignificant group of mostly ambivalent who are turned off or fatigued by constant protest; I feel like I know several of these types, who maybe supporter Bernie or another third party candidate, who don't like Trump but who have protest fatigue (they were all against the Muslim ban and supported protesting that, though).

Called Jeff Flake this morning about Betsy DeVos; one office line was busy all morning but talked to someone on the other end. Will probably do it again next week - he has reelection in 2018 so I'm hoping he'll at least listen if there are enough calls; he opposed Trump during the campaign but I suspect he'll cuck it up and become a boot licker.
02-02-2017 , 02:08 PM
Pwn, a number of people have promoted and condoned violent antifa tactics, i.e. the poster just above you.
02-02-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Like I implied before. You are divorced from reality.
That isn't an answer.
02-02-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
... precisely how? By winning the election on the square?
LOL no dude. Antifa DGAF about elections. Somethings going on here, and you're going to need to think outside of the donkey|elephant octagon to know what it is, can you... Mr. Jones.
02-02-2017 , 02:30 PM
It actually is. If you can't be bothered to open your eyes at recent events and what went on in his campaign trail you're divorced from reality. There's no hope for people like you.
02-02-2017 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
I'm not crying wolf. When you try to silence the press and opposition like Trump you have made it clear what your intent is. You're an enemy to freedom.
I would like a real specific example of this, trying to silence the press in some egregious fashion. And please.... freezing CNN out of WH staff interviews or appearances on Sunday shows doesn't count as the other side for example froze Fox out of access in the past.
02-02-2017 , 02:45 PM
I suspect most of you are familiar with this Milo dude but if not you this is a good profile. https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2...-yiannopoulos/
02-02-2017 , 02:46 PM
Jorge Ramos was told to go back to his own country by a Trump lackey after being booted out when Trump refused to answer his questions.

And CNN does count. They weren't just frozen out. They were declared the "opposition party" along with "the media".

Go ahead and try to evade responsibility for what is occurring across the country. You pulled the lever for Trump. You're just whining because there were consequences for starting a culture war when you did so. Deal with it. np. It's your mess.
02-02-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Jorge Ramos was told to go back to his own country by a Trump lackey after being booted out when Trump refused to answer his questions.

And CNN does count. They weren't just frozen out. They were declared the "opposition party" along with "the media".

Go ahead and try to evade responsibility for what is occurring across the country. You pulled the lever for Trump. You're just whining because there were consequences for starting a culture war when you did so. Deal with it. np. It's your mess.
A Trump "lackey" isn't Trump.

Cnn IS the 'opposition party' , not an honest broker of the news. As is most of the media.

I am not whining... you fellas are.

The only mess I see are supposed "antifascists" curiously enough acting very much like fascists using violence to throttle free expression and many of you guys supporting/condoning it.
02-02-2017 , 03:07 PM
Yes. You are whining. Yes. You are a drinking the kool aid. Yes. The Anitifas are your problem. Not mine. I am not condoning them. I am saying I don't oppose them other than they shouldn't resort to violence beside self-defense. There's a difference.

This is the United States you voted for. It's your turn to deal with it.
02-02-2017 , 03:21 PM
np,

Trump himself has threatened to withhold federal funding to UC Berkeley. That's not stifling free speech? Now how is the University supposed to be secure in its funding without a vigorous crackdown on dissent? You expect them to just allow protests and hope that 30 people don't break windows at the risk of losing $370 million in federal funding?
02-02-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
... Trump himself has threatened to withhold federal funding to UC Berkeley...
That's not going to happen.

But beyond that, it's hard to imagine what the UC Regents did wrong here. The book selling neo-fascist wasn't banned from campus. All the duly delegated admins said was not that night, because they couldn't assure public safety at that time. I'm sure they'd give it another try if the Campus Young Republicans insisted. The Regents can't close Sproul Plaza to protest, that's a limited public forum by state law, as well as long standing community tradition.
02-02-2017 , 03:49 PM
Who knows what will happen? but I just wanted to point out to np that it's not just Trump lackeys who are opposed to free speech, it's Trump. Maybe np agrees that federal funds can't be pulled and that the guy he voted for is an idiotic sack of ****? Or that he doesn't intend to try and he's a lying sack of ****? Or that he actually will do it and he's a fascist sack of ****?

Anyway you look at it, it's really sad that np is worked up over 30 antifa kids after electing a sack of **** for POTUS.
02-02-2017 , 06:01 PM
We're excising 2016 election crapola to its own containment thread.
02-02-2017 , 06:46 PM
KPFK 90.7 the Pacifica Radio station is starting something called The Trump Show which is at 3pm PST today. I believe the idea is keeping track of all the **** he does and various resistance activities. In 15 minutes. They have a live stream.
02-02-2017 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
People can stop acting like Trump supporters are only doing so and digging in their heels as a response to protests from the left. These people have made it perfectly clear that they hate protest in all it's forms, despite pretending that they would totally be on the black people's side of the MLK marches. That said, there is a small but maybe not insignificant group of mostly ambivalent who are turned off or fatigued by constant protest; I feel like I know several of these types, who maybe supporter Bernie or another third party candidate, who don't like Trump but who have protest fatigue (they were all against the Muslim ban and supported protesting that, though).
This is true, and don't believe for a second when they say "hey, I would support the protests if they were non-violent". That's grade A bull**** and common sense and RECENT history proves it. Let's forget the fact that like 30/1000+ people were violent at the Milo protest (somehow, that invalidates the other 970, but Trump encouraging people to punch protestors doesn't). Remember Colin Kaepernick and other NFL players daring to protest (silently and non-violently)? Remember how FURIOUS the right was? How they wanted them kicked out of the NFL? Keep in mind, this was AFTER BLM had become a movement, and many conservatives said "hey, I'd support them if they weren't violent animals". Then the NFL protests came and we found the truth. Or, hey, remember another UC Berkley protest a few years ago during Occupy Wall Street where the rent a cop crop dusted a bunch of PEACEFUL protestors with pepper spray? Remember how outraged your conservative friends were by this? Yeah, me neither. They either A) thought it was hilarious or B) said "they were were obstructing the sidewalk.

They're all full of it and anyone saying "i just don't like the violent protests" is lying.
02-02-2017 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
np,

Trump himself has threatened to withhold federal funding to UC Berkeley.
Bully Pulpit something , something?

Not likely to do it but maybe sending a signal that the next time there is 'controversial' speaker scheduled to speak, maybe the administration should make sure persons and property are protected.

I find it quite hilarious you seem to think the reaction of so called antifascists acting precisely like impetuous fascists over a gay man's right to speak his mind is somehow Trump's fault.

Just hilarious.... like the Menendez brothers throwing themselves on the mercy of the court as orphans after murdering their parents.

Peacefully protest anything as much as you like and you are akin to Ghandi and Dr King. Light **** on fire and vandalize and you are Wm. Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn
02-02-2017 , 07:42 PM
You're like someone who drinks alcohol to wash away guilt. Milo Yiannopoulos, Richard Spencer, Trump, Bannon all have been involved in hate speech that inflames people.

If you don't like **** getting lit on fire take a stand against hate speech from your side. Your side has a history of starting fires in places like Mississippi and lynching humans. And I'm sure the alt right has fantasies of returning to those things.
02-02-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
I find it quite hilarious you seem to think the reaction of so called antifascists acting precisely like impetuous fascists over a gay man's right to speak his mind is somehow Trump's fault.

Just hilarious.... like the Menendez brothers throwing themselves on the mercy of the court as orphans after murdering their parents.
Your brain works in a very strange way. You make something up and then you just go off with it and start making analogies. At least it confirms the obvious, that you're old. I'm old too, so I remember the Menendez story, though I tried to avoid the story as much as possible. I'm sure it got your law and order neurons firing like mad.

I specifically said:

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Originally Posted by microbet
I'm not endorsing the violence or even preventing Milo from speaking.
So, all I know is that you hand wave away the President of the United States of America threatening the finest University in the world's funding because of a protest as a bully pulpit something. And that 30 kids breaking windows is more important to you than freedom. Not very American of you.
02-02-2017 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
... sending a signal that the next time there is 'controversial' speaker scheduled to speak, maybe the administration should make sure persons and property are protected...
It's flat out absurd to imagine the UC admins/UC Police pulled the plug because they were too lazy y/o didn't care to facilitate this book selling event. I'll repeat, the UC Police are not Kampus Kops. Sproul Plaza is a traditional, historic, and very well utilized venue for assembly and protest. Basically: who's plaza... the UC Police's plaza. If the UC admins/UC Police felt they couldn't keep the peace in this instance, there's absolutely no reason to assume they are lying about that.
02-02-2017 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
Bully Pulpit something , something?

Not likely to do it but maybe sending a signal that the next time there is 'controversial' speaker scheduled to speak, maybe the administration should make sure persons and property are protected.

I find it quite hilarious you seem to think the reaction of so called antifascists acting precisely like impetuous fascists over a gay man's right to speak his mind is somehow Trump's fault.

Just hilarious.... like the Menendez brothers throwing themselves on the mercy of the court as orphans after murdering their parents.

Peacefully protest anything as much as you like and you are akin to Ghandi and Dr King. Light **** on fire and vandalize and you are Wm. Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn
what's gay got to do with it? nothing. ban for trolling.
02-02-2017 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
what's gay got to do with it? nothing. ban for trolling.
He's attempting to make the left look hypocritical by claiming we are protesting a gay man, even though Milo's sexuality has nothing to do with it.

How bout this NP. Provide one picture of one sign at the protest, or any Milo protests, that have anything at all to do with his sexuality being a negative? Just one.

      
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