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02-02-2017 , 10:31 AM
So Trump attacks Berkeley [and it's not Berkeley in any real sense but truth poliving trump is too much work] for protesting alt right neofaschist internet troll? Like Trump's free speech priority is Milo? I don't remember Obama threatening people for freezing out the black panthers.

Also, trump mentions freezing funding for UCB...which has a national lab..run by the dept of energy...which is heavily involved in r and d around...nukes.

Berkeley isn't an ivy league school for upper class kids to get liberal arts degrees. It's more focused on science, engineering, and computers/programming.

Last edited by simplicitus; 02-02-2017 at 10:48 AM.
02-02-2017 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
So Trump attacks Berkeley for protesting alt right neofaschist internet troll? Like Trump's free speech priority is Milo? I don't remember Obama threatening people for freezing out the black panthers.

Also, trump mentions freezing funding for UCB...which has a national lab..run by the dept of energy...which is heavily involved in r and d around...nukes.

Berkeley isn't an ivy league school for upper class kids to get liberal arts degrees. It's more focused on science, engineering, and computers/programming.
02-02-2017 , 10:36 AM
Also don't forget there is a conflict of interest here. Milo is an editor at large at Breitbart--the same Breitbart that Steve Bannon was CEO of before his roles as White House Chief Strategist and now on the NSC.
02-02-2017 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
Guys please don't ban me, I never even post in this subforum and I don't plan on starting. I will slink away.





I mean specifically for this election cycle in American politics. Thanks, folks.
http://www.salon.com/2016/09/14/trum...ght-by-police/
02-02-2017 , 10:39 AM
While definitely a conflict, it's like number 72 in the Trump conflictapalooza.
02-02-2017 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Black Protester Is Sucker-Punched by White Donald Trump Supporter at Rally
https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...lly-protester/
02-02-2017 , 10:55 AM
The greatest trick milo ever pulled was all those headshots that make him look like an actor rather than a mix of Lindsay Lohan and Steve Bannon.
02-02-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoe
Yep, they basically just cancelled out a lot of the progress that was made at the women's march and the airport protests combined.
Let's check back into before those protests to see what Shoe thought about them at the time:
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Originally Posted by Shoe
I'd like to see the protests have an actual cause, such as protest the electoral college and try to get a movement going to get rid of it. In their current form, I don't see them accomplishing much.
Huh.

You know a question that might be worth bandying about the whole thinkosphere is how come Young Republican clubs keep on inviting a racist and sexist speaker whose entire bit is that he's outrageously racist and sexist?

Any sort of like, counterproductivity there? Like about the message it sends to minorities? No? Huh. Kind of telling that when you apply the lessons of antifascist direction action against dip**** racists your concern is "that could be ME getting punched and having video of that punch set to the drum fill from In the Air Tonight!"
02-02-2017 , 12:05 PM
I'm AOK with Trump mocking the prayer breakfast; that's just a bull**** sop to the far right that no one should take seriously.
02-02-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
The greatest trick milo ever pulled was all those headshots that make him look like an actor rather than a mix of Lindsay Lohan and Steve Bannon.
Nah. The greatest trick that troll did was to allow the right to pretend it isn't trying to silence its opposition even though their Führer and Minister Bannon are doing the best they can to do just that.
02-02-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Let's check back into before those protests to see what Shoe thought about them at the time:


Huh.

You know a question that might be worth bandying about the whole thinkosphere is how come Young Republican clubs keep on inviting a racist and sexist speaker whose entire bit is that he's outrageously racist and sexist?

Any sort of like, counterproductivity there? Like about the message it sends to minorities? No? Huh. Kind of telling that when you apply the lessons of antifascist direction action against dip**** racists your concern is "that could be ME getting punched and having video of that punch set to the drum fill from In the Air Tonight!"
I was all for protesting the speaker last night, the violence ruined it.
02-02-2017 , 12:30 PM
The violence of a radical communist/anarchist group (not students). Guess what? That **** happens when the President has inflamed violence himself.
02-02-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
Guys please don't ban me, I never even post in this subforum and I don't plan on starting. I will slink away.





I mean specifically for this election cycle in American politics. Thanks, folks.
Corporations silence the left. When's the last time you saw Noam Chomsky on commercial media? Even NPR? He goes on media a lot, but almost only totally listener funded networks have him on. Bill Maher had him on once and said he was the most requested guest.

There are lots of other far left people in the country, but no farther left than Milo is right, but you've never heard of them.
02-02-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
For me the best argument for these kinds of protests is that when Universities have speakers come to their campus, it imbues them with an air of respectability ("I've been invited to speak at dozens of universities, including blah blah blah" sounds a lot more respectable than "I've spoken at dozens of alt-right gatherings"). So when Milo or others get invited to Unis to do this, it elevates them as someone more than a troll. The implicit idea is that the speaker has something worth saying. What's more, by making them more "respectable" it mainstreams their ideas. Instead of being a fascist (overused but absolutely applies to the alt_right and milo in particular) something that immediately makes you a social outcast, it becomes just another political category that some people you know fall in. That's worth opposing. Is it worth compromising on an absolutist attitude toward free speech? That's worth discussing, but the reason people are protesting should be borne in mind.
100 percent this
02-02-2017 , 12:50 PM
honestly don't have any idea what the links you posted are supposed to prove?
02-02-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
The violence of a radical communist/anarchist group (not students). Guess what? That **** happens when the President has inflamed violence himself.
And the Fuhrer (your term, previous post) inflamed the 'crowd' to violence precisely how? By winning the election on the square?
02-02-2017 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Nah. The greatest trick that troll did was to allow the right to pretend it isn't trying to silence its opposition even though their Führer and Minister Bannon are doing the best they can to do just that.
Never read the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf as a kid, I guess..... There really needs to be a Chicken Little thread here.....
02-02-2017 , 12:57 PM
I know you have no ability to comprehend reality from the fictitious world which you choose to live in. Trump in no uncertain terms advocated violence at his rallies.
02-02-2017 , 12:59 PM
I'm not crying wolf. When you try to silence the press and opposition like Trump you have made it clear what your intent is. You're an enemy to freedom.
02-02-2017 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Of course violence on the streets isn't a good thing. But this is what you're going to have when you have an oppressive minority regime pretending to be a democratically elected government.
The current occupant of the Oval Office isn't pretending to be a democratically elected government. He IS the democratically elected government according to the long established laws of this particular country.

You fellas are going to have to get over it at sometime. The laws are what they are in the USA and they can be changed. The US Constitution has been amended 27 times I believe.

Until then.... welcome to our Orange Overloard.
02-02-2017 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
I'm not crying wolf. When you try to silence the press and opposition like Trump you have made it clear what your intent is. You're an enemy to freedom.
How did he try to silence the press? Did Brown Shirts invade the print room at the Washington Post?
02-02-2017 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
How did he try to silence the press? Did Brown Shirts invade the print room at the Washington Post?
I strongly believe you know the answer to this. You are trolling. Ban?
02-02-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
How did he try to silence the press? Did Brown Shirts invade the print room at the Washington Post?
Like I implied before. You are divorced from reality.
02-02-2017 , 01:22 PM
What do you do when you call your representative? Is the person who answers the one you talk to about the issues you are worried about and how you want that person to vote?
02-02-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
For me the best argument for these kinds of protests is that when Universities have speakers come to their campus, it imbues them with an air of respectability ("I've been invited to speak at dozens of universities, including blah blah blah" sounds a lot more respectable than "I've spoken at dozens of alt-right gatherings"). So when Milo or others get invited to Unis to do this, it elevates them as someone more than a troll. The implicit idea is that the speaker has something worth saying. What's more, by making them more "respectable" it mainstreams their ideas. Instead of being a fascist (overused but absolutely applies to the alt_right and milo in particular) something that immediately makes you a social outcast, it becomes just another political category that some people you know fall in. That's worth opposing. Is it worth compromising on an absolutist attitude toward free speech? That's worth discussing, but the reason people are protesting should be borne in mind.
What? You think the best argument in support of shutting down someone from speaking is that, if you dont, someone might listen to them? I mean yeah its a "good argument" I guess. Can you think of any situation where it wouldn't apply though? Anyone who has a view different from mine seems like a ripe victim for this "good argument."

      
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