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Former Bush Ethics Lawyer Files Complaint Accusing FBI Director of Violating Hatch Act
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/form...ing-hatch-act/

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The former chief ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush White House (but now Hillary Clinton supporter) has filed an ethics complaint against FBI Director James Comey over the letter he sent to lawmakers on Friday.

Richard Painter worked in the White House Counsel’s office between 2005 and 2007, serving as the chief ethics lawyer for then-President Bush 43. On Sunday, Painter penned an op-ed in The New York Times explaining his decision to file an ethics complaint against the FBI Director.

“The F.B.I.’s job is to investigate, not to influence the outcome of an election,” Painter wrote in the op-ed. “And that is why, on Saturday, I filed a complaint against the F.B.I. with the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates Hatch Act violations, and with the Office of Government Ethics.”

The Hatch Act generally prohibits employees in the executive branch from engaging in certain forms of political activity.

Painter provided LawNewz.com with a copy of the complaint that he sent to both the Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Government Ethics, saying the public had a right to see it.

“I write to request investigation of apparent violations of the Hatch Act by the Director and perhaps other officials in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in connection with highly unusual public statements while voting is underway about the status of an investigation concerning a political candidate, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,” Painter wrote in his complaint. “I also request that the Office of Government Ethics ask the FBI to conduct an internal investigation of whether there has been misuse of official position, 5 CFR 2635.702.”

In the complaint, Painter acknowledged that its is unclear “whether the Director of the FBI personally wanted to influence the outcome of the election” based on his actions with respect to the Clinton email investigation, including sending the letter to lawmakers on Friday. However, Painter argues specific intent is not required because “the Hatch Act and ethics rules are violated if it is obvious that the official’s actions could influence the election, there is not another good reason for taking those actions, and the official is acting under pressure from persons who obviously do want to influence the election.

He then gets to the heart of his argument against Comey:

Absent extraordinary circumstances justifying it, a public communication about a pending FBI investigation involving a candidate for public office that is made on the eve of an election or, as in this case, while voting is in progress, is very likely to be a violation of the Hatch Act. It is also a misuse of official position. The fact that politically motivated members of Congress want the communication to be made publicly only enhances the seriousness of the violation; it is not an excuse.

01-23-2017 , 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

For example, imagine a state like California enforces some Trump-era regulation with the full intent of cooperating with a carefully selected plaintiff who sues, arguing that the regulation is unconstitutional. This plaintiff will be a sympathetic and telegenic individual, and the enforcement of the regulation will be in order to CREATE standing so that the individual has standing to sue about the regulation, with the implicit support of the State of California. The State of California will litigate its right to enforce that law against this individual, who will be represented by cause attorneys who will argue the oppositce. The case will wind its way into the Supreme Court by design, and if well selected it stands a decent chance of receiving cert.

So in this hypothetical, California is sending lawyers to court to argue a case that it wants to lose? Are there previous examples of this sort of thing we could read about? Seems confusing.

Like, I recall that with prop 8, California was eventually like "lol we're not going to defend this in court anymore, we don't want it either".

01-23-2017 , 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly

Oh yeah, speaking about what folks can do NOW...

There are over 200 peeps facing felony charges in DC. If they are convicted and sent off to prison for years... there goes our effective right to assemble and speak right out the window. This heinous overcharging is unprecedented. A line has been drawn on the street. Civil society needs to cross that line en mass.

I hope you understand how these people are facing "unprecedented" "heinous overcharging".

Anyhow, I agree with you the law seems extreme and I hope the lives of these protesters is not ruined.

01-23-2017 , 03:45 PM

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Edit: wrong thread

01-23-2017 , 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HastenDan

I hope you understand how these people are facing "unprecedented" "heinous overcharging".

Anyhow, I agree with you the law seems extreme and I hope the lives of these protesters is not ruined.

I don't understand it. Can you explain it?

I was at my own protests, so I didn't follow the others too closely, but did 200 people set a limo on fire in DC?

01-23-2017 , 03:54 PM

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? NBC News on protest arrests.

Plenty of news coverage out there googling "DC arrests 200" or whatever.

01-23-2017 , 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HastenDan

? NBC News on protest arrests.

Plenty of news coverage out there googling "DC arrests 200" or whatever.

I know 200+ people were arrested and most of them were charged with felony rioting. But I still don't understand how they are facing these charges unless you actually only meant that they are facing those charges because they were arrested and charged in that manner.

What do you mean by the "how" in "how these people are facing 'unprecedented' and 'heinous overcharging'"?

Seems to me you are suggesting 200+ people did something approximating felony rioting. Why do you think that's true?

01-23-2017 , 04:06 PM

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And where there is rioting at a protest like this, there are more cameras that rioters, so the hard part of finding 200 felony rioters is going to be eliminating duplicate entries, not in missing all the rioting that wasn't caught on camera.

01-23-2017 , 04:06 PM

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Organisers of the women's march plan 10 events in next 100 days.

No.1. They want everyone to send postcards to their senators/congress people. YUGE waste of time.

Personally I feel they'd be better off coordinating with BLM/anti-WTO types and start blocking roads and burning ****.

01-23-2017 , 04:17 PM

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That is not what I am suggesting. I am merely referring to the law under which they are being charged.

01-23-2017 , 04:26 PM

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I dunno, I expect most of the people arrested didn't do anything illegal and don't understand how they are charged with a crime.

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But on Sunday, Mark Goldstone, a lawyer representing about 50 of those arrested, said police "basically identified a location that had problems and arrested everyone in that location." He said there were not 230 people engaged in conduct that merited a felony rioting charge and called the charges an overreach.

"They arrested everyone in a single location including reporters, lawyers, law students and non-riotous protesters," Goldstone said.

And my protesting experience is that the people who break windows or w/e usually run fast and the police arrest the people who were just watching.

01-23-2017 , 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by martymc1

Forming lines outside their local Congressman's offices would be more visually effective than postcards.

01-23-2017 , 04:33 PM

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Microbet,

I was merely referring to HR 347. Have a read on the ACLU's take back in the day on it:

ACLU on HR 347

01-23-2017 , 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Forming lines outside their local Congressman's offices would be more visually effective than postcards.

Even more effective would be staying outside for weeks on end.

As it stands the march will be a waste of time unless they mobilise the people to get out everyday.

01-23-2017 , 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!

The so-called justice system is incredibly fragile. It can be disrupted quite easily using NVDA. One very successful tactic is bankrupting the jurisdiction. Think 200 show trails each costing upwards of $1M each because of added security. Ain't going to happen... big government will wilt under that kind of financial pressure.

These upcoming show trials need to be disrupted. If they aren't... well I'm an optimist, so I won't say we are all doomed. But just because I won't say it, doesn't make it false.

ETA: Not sure if I have a good source, but it seems there were 69 jury trails in DC in 2014. IIRC in the state of WA there were ~200 a year c.1999. There were ~600 victims of mass arrest from the WTO protests insisting on their right to a speedy and individual jury trial within 30 days. Big government punted, and everybody walked.

This is a good strategy by the Trump people. If the opposition is occupied by protesting trials they won't be doing as much protesting against Trump directly and most individual potential future protesters won't want to risk being arrested for the next round of trials. Eventually everyone will get off with a slap on the wrist of course.

01-23-2017 , 04:41 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwG-kDXk1sk

Haha, made me chuckle.

01-23-2017 , 04:42 PM

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Dan,

Is that what they are charged with or are you just making a point that protest is being suppressed?

If so, yeah

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

01-23-2017 , 04:53 PM

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Based on my FB feed - most Trump supporters believe the women's march yesterday contained rioters and broken windows. Achievement unlocked.

01-23-2017 , 05:02 PM

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Anti-Trump Marches And Rallies Planned For April 15

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Activists are hoping to keep the momentum alive after a weekend of protest marches and rallies aimed at President Donald Trump.

While last weekend’s marches focused on women’s rights, activists on social media are hoping to use a rally on April 15 to pressure the president into releasing his tax returns.

01-23-2017 , 05:11 PM

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Anti-Trump Marches And Rallies Planned For April 15

We could all not file.

We'll show you ours when you show us yours!

01-23-2017 , 05:27 PM

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We could all not file.

We'll show you ours when you show us yours!

If that happened he would show everyone something but it wouldn't be his return.

01-23-2017 , 05:36 PM

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Hey, IRS guys. You know I'm your boss now, right. And believe me, I'm going to be the best boss ever. Really fantastic.
Anyway. Take your time, okay?

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