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I don't disagree with you about Trade Union power but for the time being the unions are incredibly weak in the US and probably not a reallistic source of threat to power. Do you disagree? Automation is probably going to make them weaker if anything. Trump also seems to be doing an effective job of a carve-up with industrial labour...
Sure, the conservative business unions have become weak. But what else is there? There really is no hope, and I mean for the planet hosting human life, unless the power of rank-n-file workers remains disorganized and dormant. IMO one of the main reasons this weakness happened was allowing themselves to become almost appendages to the donkeys.
Automation is really a red-herring. It's certainly not the reason there are less factory jobs. Absentee owners don't personally operate robot lines, real working folk do. Who live in a community, the same community which enables the absentee owners with enforcement of their ownership "rights", infrastructure, raw materials, land, and the literal hours and days of peeps lives. All that cooperation can be withdrawn... not a wheel turns without our effort, all we gotta do is cross our arms and say "no". Trump "carving up" labor is basically a MSM lie.
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... Regarding violent revolution: are you sure? It looked like the black community was on the verge of starting a civil war... Every time a white cop kills a black dude... there will be retaliation...
Well, what you are talking about here is an animal of a different kind. Ferguson style riots aren't activism, and are a distinctly different kinda protest... an angry spontaneous protest that isn't organized or primarily composed of peeps who are otherwise activists. These types of riots/protests are also about the farthest thing you can get from being revolutionary or part of a 'civil war'.
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... There are much more effective and simple ways... There's about thirty tricks like that.
Sure, and I'll give you one of my ideas: a team of digital artists create popular but copyrighted meme pix; another team of hactivists to propagate those memesin to be hosted or linked on the target's various websites; at the proper moment, all the linked pix could be flipped to some propaganda (like: XYZ corp kills babies !!!1!), then activist lawyers could swap the target with perhaps 1000s of individual take-down notices.
If you wanna get more hands on, most POS systems, easily accessible internal in store networks, company wi-fi, all that inventory shiz happening out on the loading dock, etc, etc is usually almost wide open, and can be disrupted quite easily.
I'd also like to point out that (a) don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and (b) IRL protests and actions build community in ways that virtual hactivism never could. Building community is job#1. It is always more important than the immediate issue being contested. And I could add (c)... there's a joy in IRL actions, it's worth doing for it's own sake. My advice is everyone able and privileged enough should be involved in some IRL activism, even those who primarily focus on the interwebs.
My point remains however, that disrupting communications in and of itself will never be enough... at some point the movement of people and things will also need to be disrupted.
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Originally Posted by DrModern
... I'll gladly do nothing all day to top it off.
This is what needs to be done. Over and over again. Practised until we got it right. Not a wheel turns without our labor.
Last edited by Shame Trolly !!!1!; 01-03-2017 at 03:21 PM.