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01-22-2017 , 12:03 PM
a tax break is not a subsidy
01-22-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
well I don't want to pay for abortions so I voted for representatives that will work to defund PP.
Well then I guess you should admit people protesting are on to something after all.
01-22-2017 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
if federal funding makes it so that planned parenthood can provide low to no cost BC, doctor's appointments, general health care etc, does that not free them up to use money for abortions? i'm well aware of the hyde amendment. if PP gets money to do A, they can use more of their own money to do B because they don't have to spend it on A. that's the logic
Aha hmmm hmmm...


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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
a tax break is not a subsidy
Oh, I see you're a giant hypocrite. Shocking.
01-22-2017 , 12:13 PM
i took action and participated in the political system. i didn't stand around waving a sign about some nebulous cause. cause women are like... so oppressed in America. women have it pretty good in America. they get free birth control, free abortions, they earn more money than men, they earn more college degrees than men, and enjoy favorable treatment by family & divorce courts. i don't see them marching against countries where they stone women to death for being raped
01-22-2017 , 12:15 PM
It's cute seeing people shook by the largest protest in US history trying to distract with transparent bull****, and failing.
01-22-2017 , 12:15 PM
Oh cool, alternative facts. It's getting catchy I see.
01-22-2017 , 12:16 PM
That is one of the most absurd posts I have ever read.
01-22-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
People: consider running for office, getting more seriously involved in other ways, and/or encouraging others to do so.

After volunteering at a Clinton HQ for a couple of days in November, I sense that an intelligent, presentable, decently dressed, hard-working person could start volunteering and "rise up the ranks" of the party pretty fast, on the way to a position of some importance if not an actual supported candidate.

(Note: I have no actual clue how these things work except a minor anecdotal experience, but...90% of success is showing up?)

If you do wind up running for something, be animated and curse out Trump and such (increase the variance).
Very true, politics is the only way to change things, though rallies help.

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And after similar protests sprung up in Kiev and helped overthrow the Ukrainian government two years later, he [Putin] invaded the country, in part to*show his citizens*that they should stay unheard. And when his agents,*masked as rioters, protested in the country’s east, they didn’t bring witty posters and sandwiches; they seized government buildings and the television towers, much like Bolshevik revolutionaries had made a beeline for the telegraph posts in 1917.
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But unlike in Moscow, I spoke to people here who knew that this rally by itself would change nothing; that only politics could. “I don’t think it’s going to make a difference,” said an older woman from Pennsylvania. “It might, but only in two years. It’s more for the people here to feel like they’re part of something.” Her sights were set on the congressional elections of 2018, on more concrete political action. Unlike the Moscow protesters, these women had access to a strong and vibrant civil society, a century-old women’s rights movement, and legislative elections that aren’t rigged by the executive. Women riding back from the rally on the Metro chattered about the midterms and the presidential election of 2020.
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The same way that LGBT activists couldn’t have achieved political victory without straight allies, it’s hard to see how women achieve their political ends without bringing men on board. “I believe real progress is made when people who are not part of the group also fight for their rights,” said a young man named Gbenga. He had a sign that said “Even men are better when women make choices.” It was a nice sign, but it’s no substitute for seizing the telegraph post.
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...utm_source=twb

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 01-22-2017 at 12:28 PM.
01-22-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
i took action and participated in the political system. i didn't stand around waving a sign...
I'm going to wag most of the peeps waving signs voted too. Not that it matters. Dude, some peeps like waving signs.

The founding slave raping fathers thought sign waving was so important that they amended the Constitution to make it a legal right. I suggest you go back to whatever foreign hell hole you crawled out of, if you have problems with our USAian bedrock values... like our beloved 1stA.
01-22-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
i took action and participated in the political system.
So did we. And protesting is part of our political system. It's a Constitutionally enshrined right.

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they get free birth control
This is being taken away by your team. Congrats!

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free abortions
false

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they earn more money than men,
false

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they earn more college degrees than men,
sounds like men are lazy.
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and enjoy favorable treatment by family & divorce courts.
Which feminists, yes, feminists, are working to fix.

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i don't see them marching against countries where they stone women to death for being raped
I'm sorry, are we in Afghanistan, or is this just America, where the GOP is trying to make us more like Afghanistan?
01-22-2017 , 12:32 PM
There you go again guys, just shouting down and attacking anyone that challenges the lolz librul echo chamber. Can't we have a productive discussion where thirtythree makes up lies and nobody challenges them at all?
01-22-2017 , 12:37 PM
You guys are bigots. You don't like me cause I think differently. This is why Trump won!!
01-22-2017 , 12:39 PM
characterizing your garbage spewing as "thinking differently" is a pretty self aggrandizing take on things
01-22-2017 , 12:43 PM
No one even attempted to refute my arguments without resorting to intellectually lazy ad hominem attacks. I expected better from the more highly educated liberal elites of the 2 + 2 politics messaging forum application
01-22-2017 , 12:44 PM
Liberal elites don't post on gambling forums. Post refuted
01-22-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
There you go again guys, just shouting down and attacking anyone that challenges the lolz librul echo chamber. Can't we have a productive discussion where thirtythree makes up lies and nobody challenges them at all?
Indeed. That's why peeps voted elephant. That, and the time machine they needed to fit the IRL timeline.

It's funny how all those peeps waving MAGA signs get a pass. I guess there is sign waving... then there's sign waving.

My favorite was from some retiree elephant lover who travelled to the farcical swearing in. She said she had lost several friends because of her love of the elephant. The money quote was "it's the first time I wasn't allowed to have an opinion". WTF BBQ... she had an opinion, she expressed her opinion, and several of her friends felt her opinion was quite odious. If she wasn't allowed to have an opinion, she wouldn't have lost those friends. How flippin stupid can these fools be ??
01-22-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
No one even attempted to refute my arguments without resorting to intellectually lazy ad hominem attacks. I expected better from the more highly educated liberal elites of the 2 + 2 politics messaging forum application
Uh, calling your false statements false is in no way an "ad hominem attack."
01-22-2017 , 12:51 PM
You posted multiple things that a casual google search would refute easily. I mean, free abortions? WTF.
01-22-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
the government should only spend money on defense and the justice system. people should pay for their own health care or get a job with an employer that provides a health care plan
Lol you don't trust the government to provide social programs, but you apparently trust corporations, which operate as the opposite of democracy.
01-22-2017 , 12:53 PM
promoting a competitive free market environment leads to the best outcomes for all. government funded health care is totally inefficient and stifles innovation in medicine
01-22-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
a tax break is not a subsidy
Maybe you should have paid more attention in high school.
01-22-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
i took action and participated in the political system. i didn't stand around waving a sign about some nebulous cause. cause women are like... so oppressed in America. women have it pretty good in America. they get free birth control, free abortions, they earn more money than men, they earn more college degrees than men, and enjoy favorable treatment by family & divorce courts. i don't see them marching against countries where they stone women to death for being raped
Earning more money is a lie. Earning more college degrees is due to their own work, not due to the government/political system that made it "good" for them. In fact they had to fight to get into universities.

I got super mad reading the first half of your post, I neglected your ridiculous hypothesis how women have it "good" because they are not raped and stoned. Which is weird because rapists in this very country get little to no justice FAR too often.

Last edited by sylar; 01-22-2017 at 01:04 PM.
01-22-2017 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Noze
You posted multiple things that a casual google search would refute easily. I mean, free abortions? WTF.
Ya but google is biased.
01-22-2017 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree
promoting a competitive free market environment leads to the best outcomes for all. government funded health care is totally inefficient and stifles innovation in medicine
No it doesn't. Free market isn't transparent. You don't know how the employer provided healthcare sausage actually gets made. You do know how the government healthcare sausage is made because we have things like accountability offices. It could be more transparent and efficient, but that's hardly an argument to destroy the system and replace it with something else.
01-22-2017 , 12:59 PM
the government accountability offices that work so well that they can't account for trillions in pentagon spending?

      
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