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Ralph Northam:  Update — Get Used to Me Staying Ralph Northam:  Update — Get Used to Me Staying

02-01-2019 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
He wouldn't have outed himself if he wanted to keep his job and liked his job more than he is apologetic.
I don't think that's necessarily it. I mean (a) it was 35 years ago, so maybe it's not even something he remembers doing, or (b) maybe it is something he remembers with shame. And people in general don't tend to volunteer stuff they did in their past that they're current ashamed of.
02-01-2019 , 09:45 PM
Throwback to exactly one year ago today. You all thought I was trolling...

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=78305

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I split time between MD and VA. Hogan >>>> Northam.
Needless to say I'm of the opinion that he needs to GTFO. The next in line (Justin Fairfax) is a much better choice, even before this.
02-01-2019 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
He doesn't have to justify it. He has to apologize profusely and explain that he's not the same person. How is it hypocrisy?
If a Republican is guilty of the same offense, Democrats would be all over it, and rightfully so. They wouldn't let it drop even with profuse apologies and explanations. The hypocrisy would be to allow a fellow Democrat to stay in office under such circumstances.
02-01-2019 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
He wouldn't have outed himself if he wanted to keep his job and liked his job more than he is apologetic.
I was talking about years ago.
02-01-2019 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I was talking about years ago.
Years ago people brushed this stuff off.
02-01-2019 , 10:10 PM
Brag: voted against Northam in the primary.

On plus side, Justin Fairfax will hopefully be the next VA governor asap and he seems good.
02-01-2019 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
If a Republican is guilty of the same offense, Democrats would be all over it, and rightfully so. They wouldn't let it drop even with profuse apologies and explanations. The hypocrisy would be to allow a fellow Democrat to stay in office under such circumstances.
The same Democratic party that doesn't impeach our criminal President is going to call for resignations for racist jokes people made in college? Ones they apologized for? I doubt it.
02-01-2019 , 10:23 PM
I definitely think he's going to be forced out. My guess is the pressure mounts and he resigns by tomorrow night.
02-01-2019 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
The same Democratic party that doesn't impeach our criminal President is going to call for resignations for racist jokes people made in college? Ones they apologized for? I doubt it.
Forget the blackface. The KKK murdered people.
02-01-2019 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
I definitely think he's going to be forced out. My guess is the pressure mounts and he resigns by tomorrow night.
This. This is not something you can recover from. He's done.
02-01-2019 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
I definitely think he's going to be forced out. My guess is the pressure mounts and he resigns by tomorrow night.
This.

Though I think if he met with black community leaders and made a coalition to end racism it could be an out for him.
02-01-2019 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
The same Democratic party that doesn't impeach our criminal President is going to call for resignations for racist jokes people made in college? Ones they apologized for? I doubt it.
Is there something special about this Governor aside from making terrible choices when in med school? Aren't med school students supposed to have a little better judgment? Not only was he in the picture, he allowed its publication with his name associated with it.

This will dog him for his remaining time in office. He's expendable IMO. It brings up the same question I have for Trump supporters. What's so special about him, if not the racism? If you like his other policies, why can't you just go along with some store-brand Republican as President. He could push the same stupid policies and probably more effectively. What's special about Northam, and what would be associated with him besides this incident? If he's really sorry, he can sacrifice something important to him, like being Governor.
02-01-2019 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
The same Democratic party that doesn't impeach our criminal President is going to call for resignations for racist jokes people made in college? Ones they apologized for? I doubt it.
The ex-senator from Minnesota begs to differ.
02-01-2019 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Could be wrong, because it's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the KKK costume guy might be black, just judging by his exposed hands. If so, the joke would be here's Northam in blackface and here's his black friend as a member of the Klan. Terrible taste edgelording if so, but I don't think he should resign over it.
This is some weird theorycrafting considering he hasn't made any such claim and it would be strange for a black guy to participate in a stunt like that. In any case, the guy in the KKK costume is very clearly not black. You're being fooled by high-contrast photographs. Look at how dark the actually-dark things in the photo are (the blackface, the jacket, the couch). Look at Northam's hand in front of his shirt in the photo of him with the car.
02-01-2019 , 11:09 PM
I'm not saying he's going to survive this, but I think it is survivable if it's an isolated thing. It's different from Franken, where you had multiple people come forward and some of the incidents were more recent.

Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if we find a bunch of other stuff, in which case he's definitely toast.
02-01-2019 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
I'm not saying he's going to survive this, but I think it is survivable if it's an isolated thing. It's different from Franken, where you had multiple people come forward and some of the incidents were more recent.

Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if we find a bunch of other stuff, in which case he's definitely toast.
There is also the fact that Democrats are likely glad that something came up that will make him go, and thus relieve them of the necessity of figuring out whether to defend his abortion comments.
02-01-2019 , 11:25 PM
Blackface could be survivable. KKK should not be.
02-01-2019 , 11:29 PM
Yglesias had this take:


https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...77988808577025

TIL a governor of Virginia can serve as many terms as they want, but not consecutively?? What a weird quirk.

Fun trivia: last governor to actually serve multiple terms as VA governor was Mills Godwin, a segregationist Dixiecrat who served as a Democrat from 66-70 and then as a Republican from 74-78.
02-02-2019 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by stringbettor
How did gillespies team not dig that up?
Even if they did, using it would have just confused Gillespie's base on who to vote for. He ran an ultra-Trumpian campaign if I recall correctly.

And obviously Northam needs to resign or change parties. If the Dems don't tell him to **** off, I'm going to be very pissed.
02-02-2019 , 12:37 AM


Erick son of Erick outdoes himself again. It really would be harder to find a better pair of tweets.
02-02-2019 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I don't think that's necessarily it. I mean (a) it was 35 years ago, so maybe it's not even something he remembers doing, or (b) maybe it is something he remembers with shame. And people in general don't tend to volunteer stuff they did in their past that they're current ashamed of.
02-02-2019 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
And obviously Northam needs to resign or change parties. If the Dems don't tell him to **** off, I'm going to be very pissed.
CNN's got you covered, bro

02-02-2019 , 12:47 AM
That was fast.
02-02-2019 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I don't think that's necessarily it. I mean (a) it was 35 years ago, so maybe it's not even something he remembers doing, or (b) maybe it is something he remembers with shame. And people in general don't tend to volunteer stuff they did in their past that they're current ashamed of.

Perhaps he just likes beer, too.
02-02-2019 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
Perhaps he just likes beer, too.
"devil's triangle" for northam was just a drinking game...it wasn't the 3 points of his klan hood

      
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