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I figured it was something she'd said, but hadn't seen it. Thanks.

Until she's old enough to run, the next Dem candidate for pres needs to hire her to handle their twitter. She strikes the perfect balance.

My deplorable Brother in Law HATES her. He hates her more than people hate Trump. And I know part of the reason he hates her is because she's good looking.

The right is used to "pretty girls" just staying in their FOX host lane and regurgitating talking points while showing off their legs. AOC is turning that upside down and they don't like it.

bitches who talk back make weak men furious

All aboard the AOC train! Choo-choo!

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You are suggesting that a sitting congresswoman be employed to handle a twitter account?

It's not like she couldn't use the extra money

So glad a twitter bot was made for AOC. We need the positivity.

https://twitter.com/dolladollabille/...16659594108929

Imagine the outfits she'll be able to afford

Yeah, I'm genuinely confused by the whole aoc hatred/making her a focal point thing from the right.
I think it stems from a perceived intelligence thing ie when deplorables "hear" her talk she seems way dumber than she is to them, because of all the isms combined; they want to "educate" her.

To be fair the same thing applies to trump, the left didnt take him seriously because everything about him seems dumb to them.

In fairness the vast majority of Congress is definitively not qualified to do anything involving social media.

haha wow i was super pleased to wake up and find myself the target of a morphismus meme, but this one has fully made my morning

you come at the queen, you best not miss

I read it as the old libertarian "two party duopoly colluding against the fringes" except turned on its head, where now the aggrieved middle is upset the two party duopoly is colluding against and subverting the center.

I agree FWIW that it's convenient for AOC to be attacked by Fox and that right-wing outlets are going to try to out-compete each other on attacking the uppity young racial minority socialist congresswoman, and I'll say before and say again that she's young and pretty adds a whole other dimension for America's legions of horny weirdo shut ins left and right that makes her obviously attention-grabbing. She's an avowed leftist for a left party hungry for more partisan rancor, and she's a built-in villain for a right-wing hungry for new enemies as the Clintons and Obamas fade from public view, and she's photogenic and telegenic so she'll be in-demand for interviews and coverage.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...php?p=54144482

Note I think AOC is already hip to all of this and it will play out time and again for the next however many years she's a relevant public figure.

I don't buy into a whole lot of that George Lakoff "it's all frames" communication but in broad strokes I think he's ultimately correct that human reason sort of works like this, that we have a really incredibly small amount of stories/frames that we understand intuitively ("old people are senile, young pretty people are dumb, white guy in a suit is serious") and so we take all the events we see in the world and fit them into that frame. Rather than the post-Enlightenment pretense we like to imagine, that we take the facts of the world and assemble them into explanations. That's not what happens, instead we take a few simple stories and narrative-arc things we have in our brains and shape what we see into those, and so when a bunch of right-wing troglodytes see AOC, it won't matter a single bit what she actually says or does, she's in their "pretty young naive brown person" frame which means she's dumb and naive but in desperate need of clever white guys to beard stroke and educate her, which they sort of think is some perverse fantasy, that it's clever and aggrandizing for them, like what women want is to be talked down to by a superior white guy, whatever.

So from Day 1, Shapiro & the Brietbarters and whoever else, and their entire audience, from the very first five seconds they ever heard about and saw AOC, she was in the "pretty young naive woman" frame and they will not be shaken from that, and so they're putting on their brow-furrowing half-flirtatious (in their mind) "talk down to the dumb young thing and try to make her in awe of your intellect and video game collection and Bitcoins" pose or whatever these weirdos have rattling around in their minds. These peoples' President is Donald ****ing Trump and they are scammed endlessly by pretend fantasy coins and Ron Paul gold investments and dick enlargement pills and tons of other ****s they are the direct and obvious marks for, obviously they have no business scolding anyone about anything but in particular being dumb and naive, but that doesn't matter.

I think this is exactly right. Lakoff's "Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things" is a profound and important book, but a lot of his later applied work doesn't reach its level. Humans were smart enough to invent agriculture and thousands of years later alphabets/pictographs and number systems (mainly for proto-contracts), but we haven't gotten a scintilla smarter since then.

We're sophisticated apes run by emotions and use a not broad range of frames to build most mental domains. Our progress is as much from empathy as anything else. Hell, every society and every merchant and prince had a need for medicine, but it took 2500 years from the early Greeks to get anything very useful.

And our frames mutually interact and support one another, such that individual or even sustained contrary observations do not overturn "core" beliefs, as they can be explained away. (Duhem-Quine Thesis). I used to resist the Kuhnian notion that old scientists had to die for science to really change, but it's that way because their views are elaborate enough that they need a full gestalt shift to appreciate new scientific theories. The same holds for politics, with the addendum that most people in a generational cohort don't even pay attention to new facts that could falsify or update their views. They vote based on tribe and folk wisdom.

(A correlary is that a baffoon like Trump functions like a "critical experiment" that both undermines the old order/frame and jars many casual political paticipants into awareness of the weakness of the subterranean policy project of, eg, republicans, hastening the demise of their coalition as people are forced, often by sheer revulsion, to pay attention to what was previously mainly background noise. It's often good to win in politics, but if you win so much that people actually lose their healthcare, you've sown the seeds of your own demise.)

This is why I'm so big on demographics, because I think the GOP framework, undergirded by strong religion and anti-communism (secondarily "pro-business"), is literally dying as a majority-ish political super-frame and the US is "catching up" with Europe (where religion has had a weaker influence on popular political thought over the last 70 years).

Edit: but damn if they aren't trying to leave behind a self-destruct button in the form of a radical Supreme Court as they exit the scene. However, even if there are 6 conservative justices by 2020, the court cannot move too firmly against the popular will for long )

Brexit is an interesting case study about frames vs actual reality, even among the political "elite" and leaders, as it's basically a single yes/no issues where the "story" of politics is in profound tension with complex reality.

Lotta words lately to say AOC GOAT

She's Daenerys Targaryen

Except Daenerys is terrible and is gonna be the last villain of the show.