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Anybody can say "I'm a liberal" or "I'm an Obama voter." We know for a fact that people can say "I'm an Obama voter" after announcing that they were McCain voters and Romney voters on the eves of the 2008 and 2012 elections. Wake me up when you, like, actually put in some work arguing liberal positions instead of going hard in the paint against code switching or posting thinly veiled white racial resentment about how white people are at a disadvantage in the Dem primary. We understand you just fine. You just think you should be judged based on weak statements that claim your beliefs rather than firmer evidence of what you go to bat arguing. Making weak claims about your positions while you go hard in the paint arguing the other side isn't being about us misunderstanding you. It's about your bad faith trolling.

On Wednesday, the Anti-Defamation League released a report finding that attackers with ties to right-wing extremist movements killed at least 50 people in 2018. That was close to the total number of Americans killed by domestic extremists, meaning that the far right had an almost absolute monopoly on lethal terrorism in the United States last year. That monopoly would be total if, in one case, the perpetrator had not “switched from white supremacist to radical Islamist beliefs prior to committing the murder.”

You need to think about this more. In addition to giving a GOP attack on Buttigieg, I've given a Democratic attack on him in a subsequent post. I've mentioned what I like about AOC. But sure, most of the time I'm challenging what I think are bad takes from liberal posters here. What I think you're neglecting to realize is that the reason I'm not challenging what I think are bad takes from conservative posters here, is because there are virtually no conservative posters here.

You have to be pretty damn right wing sympathetic to imagine it's hard to come up with 3 killings. In addition to the many right-wingers killing random people ( mostly https://www.salon.com/2018/02/09/sur...st-four-years/ ) there have been at least 3 or 4 people killed by alt-righters in and around protests ( Heather Heyer, stabbing on a bus and shooting I think at a Starbucks both I think in Seattle).

There's also several that tried and failed, like the mail bomber, the coast guard dude, etc.

It depends. If he's correct in his criticisms of Christianity and full of **** in his criticisms of Islam, and that's consistent, then it certainly can be prejudice.

What's this got to do with "mainstream liberals" or even "the left"?

(I say "even" with the left because anti-racism etc is a central part of being leftist, though it's hardly the only thing and common among liberal centrists. While it's possible for a person to be conservative generally and against racism, they are not conservative with respect to their anti-racism. That's very specifically progressive and anti-conservative.)

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I’m old enough to remember when some Pepe dude shot up a mosque and killed like 30 people.

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The incredible smugness to think that three examples would be difficult to come up with really speaks to how much of an intellectual bubble somi lives in.

No introspection at all following getting deluged with evidence otherwise, of course. These people don't feel shame.

over 75 times per day, but if you ask them, they dont at all believe she's in their heads. nor do they believe that they talk about her constantly.

Given the way you've been posting and the fact that you have to even ask this question you should feel embarrassed. If you don't know the answer to this question, then you either don't pay attention or are intentionally not looking...

I pointed out that it's "so mi go so then" because you come on here using big words as if having a vast lexicon is supposed to mean something. We get it, you're smart. So is everyone in this thread pretty much. If anything, the deliberate attempt to out nerd other posters is really a reflection of your inability to take a step back and think about how you've approached this nonsense about how AOC speaks. A microcosm of this is your use of large words all the while having a handle that can't even spell the lyrics of Like Glue correctly.

I noticed it from day 1 and didn't really care about it enough to mention anything. But watching you speak in this manner while having that as a handle/location just makes you look a bit aloof.

You keep trying to decipher this from a logical standpoint and what you're missing isn't so much the understanding of what happened. It's that you have a keen interest in what I guess we're all calling code switching and refusing to lend credence to some of the responses explaining what AOC did with her voice...

You are clearly intelligent. That doesn't mean you don't have a clue what you're talking about. This nonsense about AOC is really part deliberately obtuse behavior from her detractors and part ignorance about how the brain functions, particularly in people who are intelligent enough to understand the value in "sounding different"...It might not even be that deep. Just being socially aware of self and your audience does not auto translate to racism or fake solidarity or a false representation of self. It's simply a matter of intending to bond with who you're communicating with, and sometimes, yes, bias influences that. But empathy does too.

Just because your personal experience with sounding Russian to seem tougher than you actually are or whatever your intent was doesn't mean your present self has to think your old self was a pretentious douchebag or someone you swear you'll never be again...That could've just been a survival mechanism or a way for you to fit in with a crowd. In the same way you don't need to see yourself as that, you don't need to see AOC the way you're trying to portray it. It's probably not a correct portrayal anyway...

By the way, saying you don't even dislike AOC is not very believable given your posting history and the condescending tone you're taking with the posters ITT. Your posting history suggests that you dislike AOC.

Its just marketing. Fox News needs a bad guy to rail against, that's what gets their viewers to tune in and produces that sweet ad revenue. Obama is long gone. Bagging on Pelosi and Schumer only gets you so far. Her not flinching is the best thing for them. The Fox people are the last ones on earth who want AOC to go away or lose popularity.

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Spicy take: while the left wing of the party may be unhappy with the tamer defenses of Omar from the center, the fact that all Democrats are basically saying some variation of "Trump doing this is inciting violence and putting her in danger" (with the center saying "against anyone" instead of "against Ilhan Omar") is a radical new step for them and a good thing.

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It's so funny to watch performative outrage done by people who wholeheartedly support Donald Trump.


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