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Protesting hatred and bigotry, a discussion of the Cucker Tarlson protests and the lies he told Protesting hatred and bigotry, a discussion of the Cucker Tarlson protests and the lies he told

11-08-2018 , 05:54 PM
Stop there
11-08-2018 , 05:55 PM
TIL Being a propaganda minister advocating white supremacy and cheering on human rights violations for cash is the same as being black or a Japanese infant.
11-08-2018 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
They were also keen on "It's okay to be violent towards Japanese". Because, you know, they were at war with the Japanese and the Nazis.
If any japanese person is espousing another pearl harbor every night to 10 million deranged and dangerous people you have my permission to yell outside their house.
11-08-2018 , 05:56 PM
Shut the **** up Keed or even better just ban this ****ing moron I have him on ignore but seeing as the rest of you jackasses keep responding to his dumb ass I can’t escape the barrage of racist adjacent contrarian hot takes.
11-08-2018 , 06:00 PM
Can I get SenorKeeed's take on urinating on Elon Musk's car while he is dining at Applebee's? Asking for a friend.
11-08-2018 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Breaking into Tucker Carlson's house and abducting his wife while he's at work. Tactically unsound, but obviously the moral thing to do.
Isn't this the Joker monologue in the hospital? Tucker riles up whites which inevitably leads to attacks and Trump revs up the deportation machine creating huge amounts of suffering for brown people and SenorKeed doesn't bat an eye because it's all according to plan even if the plan is horrible, but the wife of a white millionaire gets sent to Mexico against her will and SenorKeeed loses his mind?

The running theme for my entire adult life has been American elite impunity. That the elites can gin up as much suffering and pain for the lower classes for profit legally and no one up top suffers, or worse, any kind of retribution is frowned on because it's illegal, never mind there's no way that anyone can legally get recompense from Tucker Carlson for what he's done.

So yeah Carlson does deserve something, just like Bush, Cheney, Trump, etc.

That's different from saying that someone should actually do something. Morally should every Democrat run on reparations? Sure. Will that lead to the outcome people want? Most likely not, so they shouldn't do it.
11-08-2018 , 06:05 PM
Too many words responding to a troll. You lose.
11-08-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
Can I get SenorKeeed's take on urinating on Elon Musk's car while he is dining at Applebee's? Asking for a friend.
Sounds dangerous, you might get electrocuted.
11-08-2018 , 06:09 PM
Tucker Carlson married into immense wealth. He CHOOSES this. ****ing beat the ever loving **** out of him and dare an NYC jury to convict, OH NO CIVILITY BAD FOR THE CAUSE ****ing **** that they’re already unloading AR-15s in public places every other day
11-08-2018 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
They were also keen on "It's okay to be violent towards Japanese". Because, you know, they were at war with the Japanese and the Nazis.
dude
11-08-2018 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Isn't this the Joker monologue in the hospital? Tucker riles up whites which inevitably leads to attacks and Trump revs up the deportation machine creating huge amounts of suffering for brown people and SenorKeed doesn't bat an eye because it's all according to plan even if the plan is horrible, but the wife of a white millionaire gets sent to Mexico against her will and SenorKeeed loses his mind?

The running theme for my entire adult life has been American elite impunity. That the elites can gin up as much suffering and pain for the lower classes for profit legally and no one up top suffers, or worse, any kind of retribution is frowned on because it's illegal, never mind there's no way that anyone can legally get recompense from Tucker Carlson for what he's done.

So yeah Carlson does deserve something, just like Bush, Cheney, Trump, etc.

That's different from saying that someone should actually do something. Morally should every Democrat run on reparations? Sure. Will that lead to the outcome people want? Most likely not, so they shouldn't do it.
Is advocating for increased deportation of illegal immigrants speech that should justify violence towards those who do so? Because depending on how you phrase the question that would probably be the view of something like 40-60% of the US population.
11-08-2018 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Is advocating for increased deportation of illegal immigrants speech that should justify violence towards those who do so? Because depending on how you phrase the question that would probably be the view of something like 40-60% of the US population.
You seem to be skipping the part where Carlson is a sh*tbag drumming up racism and hatred for profit when it comes to moral responsibility, and jumping right to the practical problems, namely that something like half the country agrees with him.

And I agree! That's exactly what I've been saying. Because of the practical aka strategic reasons, people shouldn't go harassing Tucker's wife. Those strategic reasons because that he has a very large microphone and a lot of people aren't persuaded of Tuckers sh*tbaggedness.

But that doesn't mean he isn't a sh*tbag and a morally terrible person who should have some kind of moral recompense for being an awful human being.
11-08-2018 , 06:38 PM
lol Keed isn't banned yet
11-08-2018 , 06:40 PM
America!

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Leon Lederman won a Nobel Prize in 1988 for his pioneering physics research.

But in 2015, the physicist, who passed away Wednesday, sold his Nobel Prize medal for $765,000 to pay his mounting medical bills.*

https://www.vox.com/health-care/2018...-medical-bills
11-08-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
You seem to be skipping the part where Carlson is a sh*tbag drumming up racism and hatred for profit when it comes to moral responsibility, and jumping right to the practical problems, namely that something like half the country agrees with him.

And I agree! That's exactly what I've been saying. Because of the practical aka strategic reasons, people shouldn't go harassing Tucker's wife. Those strategic reasons because that he has a very large microphone and a lot of people aren't persuaded of Tuckers sh*tbaggedness.

But that doesn't mean he isn't a sh*tbag and a morally terrible person who should have some kind of moral recompense for being an awful human being.
I'm not a Fox News watcher so I won't say I've had the whole Tucker Carlson experience, but I've been generally aware of him for 20 years and watched him on his MSNBC show and Crossfire. I'll say I generally liked him. I've mostly only seen his Fox News segments that were "surprisingly this was on Fox News" -- his antiwar Syria bits, his Greenwald interviews, the time he interviewed a vegan, the time he humiliated Max Boot (recommended!), when he went after Wal Mart and Amazon for employees needing to be on food stamps and Medicaid. Stuff like that. And then your Gypsy Apocalypse and CARAVAN stuff that filters through to me from like my crazy aunt on Facebook, which seems like standard Lou Dobbs type stuff, and yeah it's not great. But it is mainstream, and I'll circle back to that in a minute.

I also listened to his podcast with Glenn Greenwald from I think about a year ago and his recent debate at Politicon with Cenk Uygur, both of which I enjoyed quite a bit. Both Greenwald and Cenk brought up his focus on immigration and Carlson said something like America has its own problems, large homeless populations, serious drug problems, decaying family and social institutions. And that America ought to look to its own problems before accepting large amounts of poor central american and other migrants. Particularly if a large fraction of the country does not want those migrants here. And while I don't share Carlson's concern and preoccupation with immigration, I think that debating the immigration policy of America is a legitimate topic for debate. And as you concede, his position is popular. Supporting illegal immigration is decidedly not popular in the United States. So I don't see how it's helpful to say that someone is a morally legitimate target of violence because he's on one side of the immigration debate or the other.
11-08-2018 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1

Here's the ****ing thing, and this is critical, THE RIGHT IS ALREADY BEATING THE **** OUT OF US AND SHOOTING US and Tucker Carlson is like at the epicenter of the movement, and so the fear we might create a theater of political violence seems a bit naive, we already have front row seats everyone, wake up.
This isn’t even remotely true but you like believing it because you think it justifies threatening violence against a mother and her children. How do you sleep at night being who you are?
11-08-2018 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskalator
This isn’t even remotely true but you like believing it because you think it justifies threatening violence against a mother and her children. How do you sleep at night being who you are?


11-08-2018 , 07:17 PM
Just last week, did President Donald J. Trump order 15,000 troops to confront asylum seekers or did he not?
11-08-2018 , 07:20 PM
Did Donald J. Trump, the Commander in Chief of the United States military, say that these armed troops will be allowed to summarily execute any asylum seeker who threw a rock or did he not?
11-08-2018 , 07:24 PM
Not to mention the numerous instances of right wing terrorism
11-08-2018 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskalator
This isn’t even remotely true but you like believing it because you think it justifies threatening violence against a mother and her children.
It is true, good sir, it is true.

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How do you sleep at night being who you are?
Just fine, thx.
11-08-2018 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
Yes, very analogous. I am swayed.
11-08-2018 , 07:25 PM
Carlson, and his incitement profiteering ilk, should be jailed. There must be a price. The law won’t extract it, and he knows that. That’s gaming the system. There must be a price, by any means necessary.

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11-08-2018 , 07:28 PM
Did Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson support these actions and inflame public support for them with incendiary and racist rhetoric or did he not?
11-08-2018 , 07:33 PM
Spoiler alert

Spoiler:
He did:




      
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