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10-18-2018 , 11:03 AM
yes very traditional, very effective



go **** yourself
10-18-2018 , 11:22 AM
C'mon. Ted.
10-18-2018 , 11:59 AM
She is an investment manager for Goldman Sachs

10-18-2018 , 12:44 PM
That should be in every attack ad on Cruz
10-18-2018 , 12:59 PM
Imagine marrying Ted Cruz.
10-18-2018 , 02:15 PM
No mention yet of Bredesen +1 poll out today? Still a pretty big dog, but shows Blackburn +14 was probably an outlier.
10-18-2018 , 02:21 PM
Bredesen had a +1 yesterday also (albeit a -3 in likely voters).

Drawing live in any case.
10-18-2018 , 02:24 PM
This Atlantic profile is the source of that Heidi Cruz tidbit btw, the whole quote:

Quote:
Another term in the Senate means six more years her husband won’t live at home. It means more family conversations about why Dad can’t make it to school on Wednesday for the meet and greet with Caroline’s new teachers. It means Heidi is working 70-hour weeks not only because she wants to, but also because she has to.

“I really feel mission-driven on what he’s accomplishing,” she clarified. But “it does take some supportiveness, you know. Six to seven years in it, with me being the primary breadwinner—it’s like, ‘Uh, yeah, this is when people say thank you. I’ll now take that appreciation.’” She laughed. “Yeah, we’re seven years into this, and we’re not buying a second home anytime soon.”
So, uh, her income being more than Ted's mean they make at least $350k/yr combined (probably a lot more if she has a position at Goldman the profile describes as "national" in scope) and she "has to" work 70 hour weeks?

Seriously, put this in every ****ing advertisement, these people have no idea whatsoever how their constituents live. How can Ted fight for the people of Texas when he and his wife are struggling to fight for their vacation home on three hundred and fifty ****ing thousand dollars a year?




Meanwhile, here's MAN OF THE PEOPLE Beto, from one of the earlier stories I remember reading about him in February of last year:

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Beto O’Rourke has long believed that the closer you get to the Mexican border, the less you fear it. So on a recent afternoon, the Democratic congressman who may challenge Ted Cruz for his U.S. Senate seat walked into Juarez for lunch.

The mere name of this Mexican city conjures images of bloodthirsty cartels or seedy red-light districts — the kind of place, some have argued, against which the United States should seal itself with a big, beautiful wall.

O’Rourke is strongly opposed to that plan. Among other things, it would make it harder to visit the bar he took his wife to on their first date.

“It was a little bit of a test, to see if she was up for an adventure,” he said, ducking into the dimly lit interior of the Kentucky Club.
10-18-2018 , 02:28 PM
Update, after recalling that non-Trump candidates typically release their tax returns: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7df_story.html

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Cruz’s campaign reported several hours later that the senator from Texas and his wife, Heidi, earned $5.05 million over the last four years and paid $1.45 million in taxes.
WHERE IS YOUR SECOND HOME??? Are you ****ing SERIOUS?
10-18-2018 , 02:30 PM
I am obviously #triggered over here but, honestly, what the **** is The Atlantic doing in regurgitating this self-fellating drivel from Heidi about feeding her family while failing to mention that this poor woman who feels she "has to" work 70 hour weeks is pulling home, like, a million dollars a year for her ****ing trouble, a fact I discovered in 30 seconds using ****ing Google? Jesus christ, liberal media fails again
10-18-2018 , 02:34 PM
#triggered

That’s NYT level
10-18-2018 , 04:15 PM
Joe Donnelly has had some interesting ads lately







last one will TRIGGER some in this thread since he bashes the far left

The second one is from VEEP which is a lot like the first one people have noticed.
10-18-2018 , 05:09 PM
10-18-2018 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
I watched some of that Beto debate, and I think just from a strategic perspective he should be in favor of building a wall. It's really just a traditional way of protecting a country, and it seems bad politically to make a stance against it. Also, Cruz made a good point about there being a wall near Beto's El Paso protecting that city already. Also, I don't think his alternative was very clear - something about more technology at checkpoints - which is not really the opposite of building a wall.
Lol. It was a traditional way of protecting a country in the Middle Ages and antiquity.. Like, have you ever even played civilization? Walls become obsolete when you discover flight. Just lol at this post.
10-18-2018 , 10:41 PM
Building a wall is unpopular in southern Texas where they'll actually have to build it which involves splitting people's property, taking people's land, etc
10-18-2018 , 10:57 PM
Civilization sighting.

Giant walls as borders never worked well in history. Hadrian's wall and the Great Wall of China are pretty good examples of expensive walls that ended up not doing much of anything.
10-18-2018 , 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jman220
Lol. It was a traditional way of protecting a country in the Middle Ages and antiquity.. Like, have you ever even played civilization? Walls become obsolete when you discover flight. Just lol at this post.
I don't think many illegal immigrants are crossing the border in planes/helicopters, but I agree that would lessen the effect of the wall.
10-18-2018 , 11:15 PM
If you count 40% as not many, sure.

https://www.politifact.com/florida/s...nts-are-overs/

Edit: Link does not account for border crossings by helicopter so maybe even higher.
10-19-2018 , 09:19 AM
We don't need high walls, we need DEEP walls, the tunnels they keep finding are like the size of the Holland tunnel
10-19-2018 , 09:22 AM
Caught the end of the Beto town hall last night, and it looked like he brought his A game. Hopefully that was a good platform for him to reach more voters.
10-19-2018 , 09:41 AM
I'm with businessdude. We need walls. Big ones, with crenellations and arrow slits and draw bridges over alligator filled moats. Big pots of boiling oil in case the hordes get too close.
10-19-2018 , 05:13 PM
Houston Chronicle: straight fire

“With eyes clear but certainly not starry, we enthusiastically endorse Beto O'Rourke for U.S. Senate. The West Texas congressman's command of issues that matter to this state, his unaffected eloquence and his eagerness to reach out to all Texans make him one of the most impressive candidates this editorial board has encountered in many years. Despite the long odds he faces – pollster nonpareil Nate Silver gives O'Rourke a 20 percent chance of winning – a "Beto" victory would be good for Texas, not only because of his skills, both personal and political, but also because of the manifest inadequacies of the man he would replace.


Ted Cruz — a candidate the Chronicle endorsed in 2012, by the way — is the junior senator from Texas in name only. Exhibiting little interest in addressing the needs of his fellow Texans during his six years in office, he has kept his eyes on a higher prize. He's been running for president since he took the oath of office — more likely since he picked up his class schedule as a 15-year-old ninth-grader at Houston's Second Baptist High School more than three decades ago. For Cruz, public office is a private quest; the needs of his constituents are secondary.

It was the rookie Cruz, riding high after a double-digit win in 2012, who brazenly took the lead in a 2013 federal government shutdown, an exercise in self-aggrandizement that he hoped would lead to the repeal of the Affordable Care Act. Cruz, instead, undercut the economy, cost taxpayers an estimated $2 billion (and inflicted his reading of Dr. Seuss's "Green Eggs and Ham" on an unamused nation). Maybe the senator succeeded in cementing in his obstructionist tea party bona fides, but we don't recall Texans clamoring for such an ill-considered, self-serving stunt.“
10-19-2018 , 07:01 PM
I went to the polls today and voted for Phil Bredesen. I was surprised by the turnout for early voting in a midterm election. When I arrived Friday afternoon there was a line out the door. I was in line at 2:00; finished voting at 2:13. Not too bad, but in my past midterm voting experiences there’s been no line. I usually just walk in, cast my vote, and go. Could be I just picked a busy time, but it seems voters are taking this election seriously.

Watching local television it seems to be Bredesen versus the national GOP propaganda machine. There has been a barrage of negative attack ads opposing Bredesen. Much of it outright lies. Bredesen’s been accused of all manner of nefarious activities. Other ads claim if Bredesen is elected the angry raging radical liberal Democrats will have uncontrollable power. Schumer will become leader of the majority party and liberals will control everything. Liberals will impeach both Trump and Kavanaugh. Liberals will pick your judges. Reject liberal hate. Stop the rise of socialism. Stop Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, Satan, etc. The ads go on and on beyond the point of absurdity.

I actually find it amusing to watch Republicans campaign against dysfunctional government while they control all three branches. I watched the debate where Marsha Blackburn complains about the conditions of Tennessee roads where we have a Republican governor and the state legislature is ~80% Republicans, but she wants us to believe Phil Bredesen’s to blame because he was governor eight years ago.
10-19-2018 , 07:27 PM
MA has the dem senate and the rep gov candidates up 30 points each. (vermont also will elect a R gov and re-elect bernie sanders by about a billion points)

the northeast is weird as ****.
10-19-2018 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Civilization sighting.

Giant walls as borders never worked well in history. Hadrian's wall and the Great Wall of China are pretty good examples of expensive walls that ended up not doing much of anything.
Yeah, I never bothered building them. They were a waste of a city improvement when there were so many better ways to build, it was strategically better just to build more phalanxes than a city wall.

      
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