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10-25-2018 , 08:23 PM
The “Beto visited every county in Texas, Ted visited every county in Iowa” line seems to be effective. Also Beto actually helps vets, rank and file GOPers claim to care about this.
10-25-2018 , 08:49 PM
How do they not just run Ted Cruz kissing Trump's ass over and over and "Vote for beto, not beta"?
10-25-2018 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
...I asked him if he was voting for Beto. He said he's not sure, he's tired of Cruz crap.

What strategy should I use to try to get him to vote beto?...
I'd just focus on what he's tired of - the Cruz crap.

10-25-2018 , 10:22 PM
I mean, Ted Cruz really might be 100/100 in the Senate. Just horrible in every imaginable way.

The parade of so called liberals nodding in agreement with that pathetic Atlantic piece fellating his wife and her "sacrifice" was absolutely disgraceful.
10-25-2018 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
So I'm talking to my super Republican uncle that lives in texas on facebook and as a joke I asked him if he was voting for Beto. He said he's not sure, he's tired of Cruz crap.

What strategy should I use to try to get him to vote beto? Obviously he's not gonna be in love with his policies. Should I just talk about how Beto seems genuine and wants to actually do things for texas?


Does he like you as a person? I think I’m having success with my grandma bc I’m the grandchild that she respects the most and considers the smartest/most knowledgeable about the world. Her two kids are polar opposites so she can’t align with both of them (my mom is super liberal and my uncle is insanely conservative).

I’m literally just making two appeals. One is that I would never lie to her and having her confirm that she trusts me to tell her the facts. Once you get that you have a million topics to choose from that most people support outside of politics but hate to admit in the partisan framework. The second is that I believe that Brian kemp (we’re in Georgia) is dangerous to her Medicare benefits, our family, and our future. I’m making this point about republicans in general but specifically about kemp bc that’s by far the most important race here.

If those won’t work I’d focus on how bad Cruz is and how he’s purely a politician and not a representative of the state. Don’t try to sell him on Beto imo. Try to sell him on not-Cruz. Even say stuff like “what’s the worst that can happen? Republicans will still probably control the senate and you’ll get to see if this guy is any better and next time there will be a different republican than Cruz”
10-25-2018 , 11:03 PM
I dunno how he feels about me really, this is the first time we've talked in 10 years. He did teach me how to build a computer way back in the day before he moved to texas though. So we got along well back then and talked computers a bunch, so I think he knows I'm relatively intelligent. He was kind of a ****ty drunk arsehole back then, I think he's been sober for awhile now though.

Yeah I think I'm just going to focus on how bad cruz is. Anyone got any funny burns for cruz? I think he'll be more open to humorous clowning of Cruz instead of me just trying to tell him how bad cruz is.

Last edited by StimAbuser; 10-25-2018 at 11:15 PM.
10-25-2018 , 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StimAbuser
So I'm talking to my super Republican uncle that lives in texas on facebook and as a joke I asked him if he was voting for Beto. He said he's not sure, he's tired of Cruz crap.

What strategy should I use to try to get him to vote beto? Obviously he's not gonna be in love with his policies. Should I just talk about how Beto seems genuine and wants to actually do things for texas?
It could be a win to keep him from voting at all.
10-26-2018 , 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StimAbuser
So I'm talking to my super Republican uncle that lives in texas on facebook and as a joke I asked him if he was voting for Beto. He said he's not sure, he's tired of Cruz crap.

What strategy should I use to try to get him to vote beto? Obviously he's not gonna be in love with his policies. Should I just talk about how Beto seems genuine and wants to actually do things for texas?
Show him the C‘mon, Ted ads.
10-26-2018 , 03:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StimAbuser
So I'm talking to my super Republican uncle that lives in texas on facebook and as a joke I asked him if he was voting for Beto. He said he's not sure, he's tired of Cruz crap.

What strategy should I use to try to get him to vote beto? Obviously he's not gonna be in love with his policies. Should I just talk about how Beto seems genuine and wants to actually do things for texas?
Tell him that Beto is a mortal lock to be a one term senator, and that next time the Republicans will come up with a way better candidate than Cruz. Tell him that if Cruz loses his political career is basically over. The GOP will never nominate a guy who lost Texas, so he can cast a vote to end Cruz's career.

As for Beto I think that I'd focus on how he's genuine and seems to care about Texas, so give him a chance. There's probably not a lot of point in getting too far into policy in this case, although if you did, Medicare or even Medicare for All may be the best bet since it polls well even with Republicans.
10-26-2018 , 07:01 AM
This looks good, but I don't trust guys named after cities and I sure as hell don't trust FL.

10-26-2018 , 07:05 AM
On the Opening Arguments podcast they noted that a clause buried in a popular "victim's rights" FL ballot proposition will have the effect of constitutionally eliminating state court deference to agency interpretations and regulations, the state analog of "Chevron Deference". This is legally insane and is a full-on attack on basic government functions, buried in the 21st paragraph of an unrelated ballot initiative. We need to stop this madness.
10-26-2018 , 07:32 AM
There are a lot of things in the Florida ballot that I found confusing.
10-26-2018 , 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StimAbuser
So I'm talking to my super Republican uncle that lives in texas on facebook and as a joke I asked him if he was voting for Beto. He said he's not sure, he's tired of Cruz crap.

What strategy should I use to try to get him to vote beto? Obviously he's not gonna be in love with his policies. Should I just talk about how Beto seems genuine and wants to actually do things for texas?
Beto just got endorsed by the Dallas Morning News, and he was also endorsed by the Houston Chronicle last week.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/e...urke-us-senate

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opi...t-13320986.php

Maybe read through those and see if you think any of their arguments would be important to him.
10-26-2018 , 09:11 AM
Don't even try to get him to vote for Beto just convince him to stay home.
10-26-2018 , 09:40 AM
yea chances are while scrolling through beto's platform he'll see something in there that gives free stuff to ******s and whore moms, he'll get upset and then he'll go vote cruz without telling you

i'm on the team that thinks you should just try to convince him to stay home. or just make fun of cruz for being such a beta loser who does nothing for texas. the one tagline ive found repeated over and over (even out of numerous peoples' mouths irl) is that ted cruz hasn't been representing texans, he's just been spending his time running for president. that actually matters to a ton of republicans here.
10-26-2018 , 10:09 AM
My strategy is to stop by my grandparents on election day and lose their car keys. I'm kidding, I'm sure they've already gleefully early voted for every deplorable option. Although if they did absentee ballot, there was enough confusing **** on mine, that there's a decent chance they screw up and get it tossed.

The most hilarious was, 'Your ballot must be in this specific completed and signed envelope.' And elsewhere, 'your ballot must be folded using the original creases.' Well guess what, if you fold along original creases it doesn't fit into the envelope provided. Luckily my daughter got ahold of mine and ripped it to pieces, so I have to go deal with it in person anyway.
10-26-2018 , 10:21 AM
Don't let them read this forum for sure. The old hate is strong here.
10-26-2018 , 01:01 PM
Wasn't sure where else to post this. For the first time in my life I'm doing an absentee ballot. This means I have time (but not much) to actually research some of the more obscure names (mostly judges, treasurers, public department heads, etc.) that are up for election and/or retention. I Googled the first few names of judges and one came up on some judiciary website and I was at least able to determine whether they were a Democrat or not. But many either didn't show up at all on this website or there was little information to go on.

I think it's very important we put the right people in place for lower and/or local positions to #Resist from the ground up. Does anyone know of a link or website that lists the voting or ruling record of candidates and judges? I feel terrible being an uneducated voter, but I fear most people are and it's a big reason why we're in this mess. I want to know whether a judge favors cops over civil rights for instance, but I don't know how to tell

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm just trying to be an informed voter, but don't follow politics nearly as closely as many here seem to and don't know where to turn for info. Thanks
10-26-2018 , 01:12 PM
Not sure if this site will have the information you need: https://www.ncsc.org/topics/judicial...ate-links.aspx

These are for seating judges. My state had like 20 judges that we were asked to vote to keep or not, with no party affiliation on the ballot. The site above was useful to get information about those judges. I hope this helps.
10-26-2018 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin J
Wasn't sure where else to post this. For the first time in my life I'm doing an absentee ballot. This means I have time (but not much) to actually research some of the more obscure names (mostly judges, treasurers, public department heads, etc.) that are up for election and/or retention. I Googled the first few names of judges and one came up on some judiciary website and I was at least able to determine whether they were a Democrat or not. But many either didn't show up at all on this website or there was little information to go on.

I think it's very important we put the right people in place for lower and/or local positions to #Resist from the ground up. Does anyone know of a link or website that lists the voting or ruling record of candidates and judges? I feel terrible being an uneducated voter, but I fear most people are and it's a big reason why we're in this mess. I want to know whether a judge favors cops over civil rights for instance, but I don't know how to tell

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm just trying to be an informed voter, but don't follow politics nearly as closely as many here seem to and don't know where to turn for info. Thanks
This is a great question, but I don't know the answer. Hopefully someone else will.
10-26-2018 , 01:16 PM
I did the same thing with the judges. It was hit or miss. Sometimes I found the info on their official website. Sometimes not. It just takes due diligence.
10-26-2018 , 02:28 PM
FL has the same process for justices as wherever El Timon loves. I believe it’s the same process for appeals court judges. I ldo am voting No on all of them and hope Gillum wins, and let him appoint new ones.

Last edited by Namath12; 10-26-2018 at 02:36 PM.
10-26-2018 , 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin J
Wasn't sure where else to post this. For the first time in my life I'm doing an absentee ballot. This means I have time (but not much) to actually research some of the more obscure names (mostly judges, treasurers, public department heads, etc.) that are up for election and/or retention. I Googled the first few names of judges and one came up on some judiciary website and I was at least able to determine whether they were a Democrat or not. But many either didn't show up at all on this website or there was little information to go on.

I think it's very important we put the right people in place for lower and/or local positions to #Resist from the ground up. Does anyone know of a link or website that lists the voting or ruling record of candidates and judges? I feel terrible being an uneducated voter, but I fear most people are and it's a big reason why we're in this mess. I want to know whether a judge favors cops over civil rights for instance, but I don't know how to tell

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm just trying to be an informed voter, but don't follow politics nearly as closely as many here seem to and don't know where to turn for info. Thanks


If you want to be a bit lazy your state party HQ can usually give a thumb up or down to judges on their Web site. The FL GOP conveniently mails me a list of candidates to support, right down to my local city and county races that are all NPA. I just take that and vote against whomever they recommend.
10-26-2018 , 03:01 PM
So yeah I went with the cruz is awful line. Spends more time in Iowa than texas, sucks up to Trump even though he made fun of his wife.

I don't post political stuff on FB so he doesn't know my political leaning.

So I'm pretending I'm in the middle and think both parties are nuts, don't lean one way or another, but I think Cruz is the absolute worst man in politics and is a weak pathetic human being
10-26-2018 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
If you want to be a bit lazy your state party HQ can usually give a thumb up or down to judges on their Web site. The FL GOP conveniently mails me a list of candidates to support, right down to my local city and county races that are all NPA. I just take that and vote against whomever they recommend.
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
So yeah I went with the cruz is awful line. Spends more time in Iowa than texas, sucks up to Trump even though he made fun of his wife.

I don't post political stuff on FB so he doesn't know my political leaning.

So I'm pretending I'm in the middle and think both parties are nuts, don't lean one way or another, but I think Cruz is the absolute worst man in politics and is a weak pathetic human being


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