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03-04-2016 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tracker2208
Political correctness is used to shut down debates on important topics. For example if you say illegal Mexican immigrants disproportionately make up rape and murder convictions in border states that racists. If you say legal muslim immigrants are the most likely type of legal immigrant to commit a terrorist act that's Islamophobic. If you argue for due process for those accused of rape and sexual assault that's misogyny and rape culture.

With the caveat of LOLSAMPLESIZE, I'll say that a sizable portion of people I know are hardcore liberals and none of them think like that. This is the kind of thing that conservatives love to prattle on about, but they're just attempting to refute a point that very few people are actually trying to make.
03-04-2016 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Flip them to Bernie. I've gotten two working class HS degree or less guys to switch. Everything they say applies to Bernie, except Trump is switching positions left and right.
What does this really accomplish though? Once Hillary wins the primary they'll be right back on the TRUMP train.
03-04-2016 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
I am not an American so I don't get to vote but I know two people who will, so here we go:

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Gender: Female.
Age: Early 30s
Occupation: Programmer, worked as a translator as well (speaks several languages)
Marital Status: Married
Education: Ivy League college, masters in comp-sci
Ethnic Heritage: Legal immigrant, Caucasian
Political Affiliation: None, self describes as libertarian
Religion: Atheist
Why Trump?: "Most sensible guy out there; not corrupt, has sensible views on education, immigration (other than deporting 11.5M people which she hopes won't happen), protectionism"
Misc: one of the smartest people I know
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Since absolutely none of this makes any sense, I'm forced to assume that the bolded quality includes an overly conservative male who has brainwashed her into thinking what he thinks. Only way this ever happens with women.
03-04-2016 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Claunchy
What does this really accomplish though? Once Hillary wins the primary they'll be right back on the TRUMP train.
Gives them time to come to their senses.


Once people start to identify with a candidate, they take attacks on "their" candidate personally and dig in even deeper.


If they hear a ton of terrible things about TRUMP and he's not "their" guy, maybe he never will be.
03-04-2016 , 10:54 PM
We shall see. Bernie will be winning 2 out of 3 this weekend.
03-04-2016 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aislephive
I just learned after browsing my father's facebook feed that he supports Trump. He also shares infowarz posts. I'm not sure how to take this but I have logged off for the time being.
i straight up told my dad i was old yeller'ing him if he supported trump
03-04-2016 , 11:16 PM
"Youth moves from wasteland to swamp for training, plans to murder father."


Think I've seen that movie already.
03-04-2016 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Since absolutely none of this makes any sense, I'm forced to assume that the bolded quality includes an overly conservative male who has brainwashed her into thinking what he thinks. Only way this ever happens with women.
Yup, only way a woman could have these beliefs is if a man brain washed her.
03-05-2016 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
"Youth moves from wasteland to swamp for training, plans to murder father."


Think I've seen that movie already.
it's all good, i've got a long running deal to kill my dad when he goes senile. They'd understand.
03-05-2016 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HiFi
With the caveat of LOLSAMPLESIZE, I'll say that a sizable portion of people I know are hardcore liberals and none of them think like that. This is the kind of thing that conservatives love to prattle on about, but they're just attempting to refute a point that very few people are actually trying to make.
I'm just going to go over his "rapists and murderers" quote because it's low hanging fruit. Ignoring for the moment the semantics of the "when they send over" part of Trump's statement - when opinion pieces came out about they didn't focus how a wall would cost too much or how unfaceable of a project it was. A few made a few half hearted attempts to prove he was factually wrong (which is a fool's errand - I think it's common sense that the jails and prisons have a disportionately high rate of rapists and murders that are illegal immigrants due to drug cartel association and poverty). For the most part they just invoked the writ of LOLRACISM and repeat that over and over and over. It might not be their intention to shut down debate, but that's the effect. And notice I'm talking about media figures and politicians, not normal people.
03-05-2016 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Since absolutely none of this makes any sense, I'm forced to assume that the bolded quality includes an overly conservative male who has brainwashed her into thinking what he thinks. Only way this ever happens with women.
She self identifies as a libertarian. That's a far bigger indicator than marital status. Sure, shes supporting the least libertarian candidate in the race, but these are minor details.
03-05-2016 , 01:09 PM
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She self identifies as a libertarian. That's a far bigger indicator than marital status. Sure, shes supporting the least libertarian candidate in the race, but these are minor details.
Trump holds many positions libertarians like, for example:
-localized education (aka you have more choice about your child's future)
-stop nation building abroad
-isn't a zealot on marijuana and is quite like pro legalization (or at least for not touching states who vote for it)
-isn't a zealot on women's rights

You know, the word has meanings outside what Tea Party identifies with (which is like very right wing economic libertarianism). It seems it's hijacked in US in comparison to how rest of the world understands it.
03-05-2016 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggle10
I see this mentioned a lot. Can someone explain to me what is meant by this? and/or what Trump supporters are saying when they say its a problem?
It means they are annoyed they have to hide their racism. Can't even tell a good n***** joke anymore.
03-05-2016 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tracker2208
Political correctness is used to shut down debates on important topics. For example if you say illegal Mexican immigrants disproportionately make up rape and murder convictions in border states that racists. If you say legal muslim immigrants are the most likely type of legal immigrant to commit a terrorist act that's Islamophobic. If you argue for due process for those accused of rape and sexual assault that's misogyny and rape culture.
Again, this is this issue really serious enough to blow up the whole political system and take a chance we're electing another Berlusconi?

IMO you don't have real problems if "having to phrase your opinions with a little more sensitivity" is one of your biggest issues.
03-05-2016 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Trump holds many positions libertarians like, for example:
-localized education (aka you have more choice about your child's future)
-stop nation building abroad
-isn't a zealot on marijuana and is quite like pro legalization (or at least for not touching states who vote for it)
-isn't a zealot on women's rights

You know, the word has meanings outside what Tea Party identifies with (which is like very right wing economic libertarianism). It seems it's hijacked in US in comparison to how rest of the world understands it.
Is building a giant unfunded mutli-$trillion wall and restricting free trade a big libertarian position?
03-05-2016 , 02:53 PM
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We're not hiring Donal Trump to be our life coach people. We're hiring him to run our country and have the integrity to say no to corporate agendas and yes to what this country needs.
It's very hard to corrupt a man who has billions of dollars.. He can buy anything he wants and do whatever he wants for the rest of his life.. He has decided to help the U.S. Let's see what 4 years does..
Can't get much worse up there
on fb
03-05-2016 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Again, this is this issue really serious enough to blow up the whole political system and take a chance we're electing another Berlusconi?

IMO you don't have real problems if "having to phrase your opinions with a little more sensitivity" is one of your biggest issues.
You just said illegal immigrants crossing the border and committing rapes and murders is not a "real problem". That kind of proves my point about PC being used to silence debate.

Cologne, Germany is another good example. On New Year's Eve thousands of women were sexually assaulted. Because the assailants were mostly migrants the police, not wanting to look racist, released a statement that the celebrations were "largely peaceful". The German media, not wanting to look racists, didn't report on the assaults until it blew up on social media and foreign media picked up on it. This all happened because no one was allowed to say "maybe we shouldn't be letting every migrant under the sun without properly vetting them", that would be too racist.

So yes, using PC to shut down debate is a big problem.
03-05-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by StevenPoke
Yup, only way a woman could have these beliefs is if a man brain washed her.
You can find a domineering conservative male in the lives of most women who claim to espouse far-right beliefs. Might be their father, their partner, or Jesus. Or some combo of the three. It's rather rare that an educated female would get on the God, guns, and GOP (but no gays!) train themselves.
03-05-2016 , 05:11 PM
So apparently Mark Cuban is open to running as VP with Trump.

Another billionaire attention whore.

Shocker.
03-05-2016 , 06:27 PM
Secret Donald Trump Supporters Speak Out

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...ters-speak-out
03-05-2016 , 09:31 PM
The gay Muslim has to be a phony.

No way these people are real.
03-05-2016 , 11:32 PM
In 2000, my smartass kid filled out the Census form saying he was an 80 year old Pacific Islander (and I was 100).
03-06-2016 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tracker2208
You just said illegal immigrants crossing the border and committing rapes and murders is not a "real problem". That kind of proves my point about PC being used to silence debate.

Cologne, Germany is another good example. On New Year's Eve thousands of women were sexually assaulted. Because the assailants were mostly migrants the police, not wanting to look racist, released a statement that the celebrations were "largely peaceful". The German media, not wanting to look racists, didn't report on the assaults until it blew up on social media and foreign media picked up on it. This all happened because no one was allowed to say "maybe we shouldn't be letting every migrant under the sun without properly vetting them", that would be too racist.

So yes, using PC to shut down debate is a big problem.
Germany sure whatever idk.

There is no rash of illegals committing murder though. Statistics show they're less likely to commit crimes than average Americans, which has been linked itt, and apparently you just ignore because it doesn't fit your worldview.

I do realize that just one immigrant murdering someone a year, blasted all over the DERP-o-sphere, is enough to emotionally trigger conservatives like you.

Just like how 1 in 100 of our mass shootings are Muslims, but people like you want to literally nuke the ME every time one happens.
03-06-2016 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
In 2000, my smartass kid filled out the Census form saying he was an 80 year old Pacific Islander (and I was 100).
Holy crap, maybe the Guardian got punked! By Trumpeteers. Trunked!
03-06-2016 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tracker2208

So yes, using PC to shut down debate is a big problem.
I don't get this at all. What debates are being shut down due to PC? Generalizing that illegal immigrants are rapists and drug mules, and that all muslims are suspected terrorists does what, facilitate debate?

      
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