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01-18-2019 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Not sure if you're still trying to sell us on this "both sides are bad" stuff but I think you just significantly kneecapped your campaign
I find Hannity detestable?!?
01-18-2019 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Not sure if you're still trying to sell us on this "both sides are bad" stuff but I think you just significantly kneecapped your campaign
Also i did request a right wing loudmouth to die on live tv but you omitted that
01-18-2019 , 10:13 PM
I mean, much like the thing about "should we respect pro-lifers for the small parts of their activities that are not universally awful", I'm not sure I should pat you on the back for hoping Dan Bongino keels over while you enjoy your nightly broadcast of Tucker's white nationalist propaganda
01-18-2019 , 10:21 PM
You’re welcome?
01-26-2019 , 01:44 PM
So the typical Trump Supporter here.

Joe Rogan and him are great friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt_LrzSw-V8
01-26-2019 , 01:56 PM
Nick DiPaolo is a mediocre stand-up comedian and has always had a right-wing edge to his comedy. Once Trump got elected, he went James Woods style deplorable. He actually has a podcast, The Nick DiPaolo Show, which is pretty much him being a deplorable for every episode.
03-06-2019 , 06:58 PM
Guys,

say Trump's tax returns are released and don't show anything definitively criminal, at least not at first parse, but prove Trump is not good at business and way less wealthy than he claims: how would this affect his popularity among Trump supporters you know? "LOL nothing matters" is my instinct, perhaps it's correct but but the profiles of Trump supporters I've read all indicate they genuinely believe he's a brilliant businessman (whereas they're keen to admit he "bends the truth"). Many people opposed to Trump believe this too. Trump would cry fake news etc, perhaps successfully. What if the returns were so clear Hannity had trouble spinning them? What if "Trump is bad at business and not that rich" because conventional wisdom? Would this move the needle?
03-06-2019 , 07:06 PM
No because it's a witch hunt.

When people start realizing that Trump supporters aren't humans but rather swine who act solely on their reptilian brain, they will start to adjust their expectations around Trump supporters.
03-06-2019 , 08:03 PM
NYT proved $400 million of estate tax fraud. Nothing happened. Nothing matters.
03-07-2019 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Guys,

say Trump's tax returns are released and don't show anything definitively criminal, at least not at first parse, but prove Trump is not good at business and way less wealthy than he claims: how would this affect his popularity among Trump supporters you know? "LOL nothing matters" is my instinct, perhaps it's correct but but the profiles of Trump supporters I've read all indicate they genuinely believe he's a brilliant businessman (whereas they're keen to admit he "bends the truth"). Many people opposed to Trump believe this too. Trump would cry fake news etc, perhaps successfully. What if the returns were so clear Hannity had trouble spinning them? What if "Trump is bad at business and not that rich" because conventional wisdom? Would this move the needle?
Bolded would not matter at all. People who think Trump is some brilliant business mind would either (i) assume the information was false; or (ii) shrug it off as cyclical variations for a guy who they are convinced always claws his way back to the top.
03-07-2019 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
NYT proved $400 million of estate tax fraud. Nothing happened. Nothing matters.
I think that's different. His criminality is baked in. He is "playing the system". That's why I think revelations he's (relatively) poor are potentially more dangerous than criminality.

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Originally Posted by Rococo
Bolded would not matter at all. People who think Trump is some brilliant business mind would either (i) assume the information was false; or (ii) shrug it off as cyclical variations for a guy who they are convinced always claws his way back to the top.
This is probably true. Especially since his byzantine taxes will be difficult to interpret and easy to spin. Does there exist a scenario where his tax returns make him business acumen look so bad that it hurts his approval is the question? i.e, the $400mm tax fraud didn't move his approval because no matter how much his supporters publicly proclaimed to believe his business career was kosher, they knew it wasn't. Is the same true regarding his business acumen? I think his supporters believe he is good at business and is mostly self-made/wildly successful (some exaggeration is baked in). I think they'd be surprised if it turned out, say, he inherited $1bn inflation adjusted and is worth $100mm. But maybe not. And maybe they'd be surprised but rationalise it.
03-07-2019 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Nick DiPaolo is a mediocre stand-up comedian and has always had a right-wing edge to his comedy. Once Trump got elected, he went James Woods style deplorable. He actually has a podcast, The Nick DiPaolo Show, which is pretty much him being a deplorable for every episode.
All correct
03-07-2019 , 12:30 PM
I think for Trump voters most of the stuff about his business and money is about fantasy fulfillment with a subconscious dose of self awareness.

Trump voting rubes subconsciously know that Trump, like them, could only ever be rich through inheritance, crime or both. They don’t love him for having or earning money, they love him for getting to be a complete piece of **** without consequence, which is what they fundamentally long for in their pathetic, resentment fueled lives.
03-07-2019 , 12:36 PM
I would think he has to be on tape talking **** about small town people. I refuse to believe that he has never used the phrase, "white trash," to refer to rural white folks.

That would probably do more damage than anything else could.
03-07-2019 , 01:06 PM
Nothing can damage him.

Despite the abuses under the Sea Org, David Miscavige still runs The Church of Scientology. He's likely a multi-billionaire and probably murdered his wife. Meanwhile the most dedicated Scientologists get paid 50 cents an hour and live off of food scraps.

It's the same with Trump. He could be on tape killing babies immediately after they're born and it wouldn't change anything. Those people could lose everything they own but continue to support him so long as he keeps triggering the libs.
03-07-2019 , 01:10 PM
Dead girl, live boy.
03-07-2019 , 01:12 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

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Festinger stated that five conditions must be present if someone is to become a more fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation:

A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he or she behaves.

The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief.

The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.

Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.

The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselytize or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.
03-07-2019 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
I think that's different. His criminality is baked in. He is "playing the system". That's why I think revelations he's (relatively) poor are potentially more dangerous than criminality.



This is probably true. Especially since his byzantine taxes will be difficult to interpret and easy to spin. Does there exist a scenario where his tax returns make him business acumen look so bad that it hurts his approval is the question? i.e, the $400mm tax fraud didn't move his approval because no matter how much his supporters publicly proclaimed to believe his business career was kosher, they knew it wasn't. Is the same true regarding his business acumen? I think his supporters believe he is good at business and is mostly self-made/wildly successful (some exaggeration is baked in). I think they'd be surprised if it turned out, say, he inherited $1bn inflation adjusted and is worth $100mm. But maybe not. And maybe they'd be surprised but rationalise it.
Trump supporters, for the most part, literally do not understand the bolded. If we find out he was gifted $500 million 40 years ago, they will insist he was only gifted $500 million.

I'd think the only thing that could bring him down would be actual criminal activity that was revealed in the tax returns. I have no idea how it works or what it would look like though. Maybe lots of unexplained income.
03-07-2019 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Nothing can damage him.

Despite the abuses under the Sea Org, David Miscavige still runs The Church of Scientology. He's likely a multi-billionaire and probably murdered his wife. Meanwhile the most dedicated Scientologists get paid 50 cents an hour and live off of food scraps.

It's the same with Trump. He could be on tape killing babies immediately after they're born and it wouldn't change anything. Those people could lose everything they own but continue to support him so long as he keeps triggering the libs.

Yeah it’s a full on cult, the true believers are never abandoning him no matter what. He’s bled plenty of support since the election, for being a fraud, for not being right-wing enough, or whatever myriad reasons voters come up with, but his baked in followers are never going anywhere. Many of them have already chosen Trump over their families, what else can he take from them?
03-08-2019 , 09:41 AM
his true believers, of which there are plenty will never depart. but even the ppl who dont support him will never vote for a baby killing stalinist dem.
03-08-2019 , 10:43 AM
Don’t know how I forgot to post this until now:

Age: 33ish
Gender: Male

This guy is plugged into the whole GOP Palm Beach / Mar a Lago scene. His dad inherited a huge private company; immediately took it public and retired with $100 million plus. Dad develops real estate now, subject is the “president” of the company. Complete moron, everyone doing the actual work openly hates him. His Instagram includes pictures of him with Trump, which are hilarious because he is like 5’6”.

Constantly retweeting MAGA nonsense, drives around palm beach in a Range Rover and posts pictures to Instagram.
03-08-2019 , 02:39 PM
I was googling old friends and came across one. He was not at all a Trumpy kind of person in college. Smoked a ton of pot - several times a day since he was like 13. In his mid-20s his neurotic tendencies become full-fledged mental illness - paranoia - thought all kinds of people were trying to kill him with negative thoughts. He looks absolutely terrible. His facebook page has zero friends and links to literally hundreds of Trump groups.
03-08-2019 , 02:53 PM
Smoking that heavily from such a young age can induce chronic psychosis.
03-08-2019 , 03:52 PM
its proly identity theft from the russians.

      
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