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Old Today, 07:47 PM   #12226
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

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How exactly are the dems supposed to “message better” when there is an almost literal government propaganda network that serves as the sole source of news for a huge percentage of the population.

I’m also not sure how they messed up here, considering they didn’t unilaterally start the investigation or anything. Lots of shady stuff was obviously going down, numerous crimes have been uncovered. If they screwed up anything it’s been letting Trump frame it as if “collusion” is the only possible crime that could be found by the special counsel. The only possible disappointment so far is no Don Jr indictment; Trump himself being indicted was a massive long shot.
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Old Today, 07:51 PM   #12227
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As some point we just have to acknowledge the problems are structural. It turns out in America there isn’t any real check on the people in charge being shameless criminals.
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Old Today, 07:52 PM   #12228
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I’m also not sure how they messed up here, considering they didn’t unilaterally start the investigation or anything. Lots of shady stuff was obviously going down, numerous crimes have been uncovered. If they screwed up anything it’s been letting Trump frame it as if “collusion” is the only possible crime that could be found by the special counsel. The only possible disappointment so far is no Don Jr indictment; Trump himself being indicted was a massive long shot.
The whole media spectrum lead by Trump made the Mueller investigation about a smoking gun against the president. Mueller could've arrested 100 people, indicted Trump Jr, accidentally cured cancer, and we'd still have to discuss if the Mueller investigation was important enough or if it was entirely a liberal hit job. It's ridiculous. We live in a laughable society right now
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Old Today, 07:59 PM   #12229
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Meanwhile, we have a Secretary of State whose politics seems to be driven by Christian views on the Rapture. He literally wants Israel to have the biblical land so the end times can come.
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Yeah Pompeo is scary.


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CIA Director Mike Pompeo, Trump's pick to lead the State Department, has meanwhile portrayed the fight against terrorism as an epic holy war. "The threat to America is from people who deeply believe that Islam is the way and the light and the only answer," he told a church group in his hometown of Wichita in 2014. "They abhor Christians and will continue to press against us," he said, "until we make sure that we pray and stand and fight and make sure we know that Jesus Christ as our savior is truly the only solution for our world."
They think Islam is the only answer so they are bad, because Christianity is the only answer!

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Old Today, 08:19 PM   #12231
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Hearing that from somebody who's supposed to work in diplomacy is horrifying.
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Old Today, 08:23 PM   #12232
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https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/stat...46900228771840
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Old Today, 08:36 PM   #12233
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It has always said so much about trump that as president he has absolutely refused anyone to double check his work. I feel like it would not only be a benefit of the position but a massive obligation of the position.
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Old Today, 08:37 PM   #12234
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With Donald J. Trump it means a lot. It is absolutely unprecedented. He doesn’t take counsel and there is no way he would not tweet just because advisors told him to wait and see.

So something is up. Who knows what or even in what direction.
Generally speaking, bad news coming down the pipeline has made him freak out and lash out more, not go quiet... If the report said he colluded, but that DOJ doesn't indict the sitting president, and he knew that was in there, I think he'd be freaking out on Twitter about how it was a witch hunt and Mueller was a liberal hatchet man.

That said, if the report was truly totally good news for him, and he knew it, he'd be taking a huge victory lap on Twitter by now.

The only way silence makes sense is if they haven't figured out what course of action is best, and he's actually more disciplined than we all think in regard to Twitter. Like perhaps they're debating whether or not they can get away with suppressing most of the bad stuff and claiming it exonerates him, without any of it leaking to the public? In which case they wouldn't want to be attacking Mueller anymore, but if they didn't think they could get away with it, attacking Mueller more would be the play... Hence silence.

I also expected them to be selectively leaking the parts of it that made them look good by now, assuming the White House has had a look. I figured within 24 hours of the report dropping, we'd be seeing small portions leaked to the media to make Trump look good, then once Congress got the full report we'd get the entire thing leaked and see what it really said.

Is it possible that Barr hasn't given it to the White House yet and is actually reading it first?

This silence definitely doesn't make much sense at all, and I'm curious what the rest of you think is going on...
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Old Today, 08:44 PM   #12235
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Prolly waiting for Putin to read it and give him his marching orders.
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Old Today, 08:48 PM   #12236
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The white house/twitter silence is odd. Even if they have not read it trump would still be tweeting about it. Hope its making them have to think.
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Old Today, 09:08 PM   #12237
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How exactly are the dems supposed to “message better” when there is an almost literal government propaganda network that serves as the sole source of news for a huge percentage of the population.
That fact should be part of the messaging, and I'm not saying it would be easy. Tweet links to the list of crimes Trump cronies have been convicted of, talk about the convictions publicly on whatever network show, drive home that Trump is engaging in foreign policy that favors despots around the world regardless of whether raw evidence of collusion is found.

Don't be making stupid premature comments about how you're not going to impeach (Pelosi), or say weird stuff like we have to lay off Russia-gate because Trump will violently overcompensate (Gabbard).

None of the democrats (running or otherwise) are directly addressing *the problem* with our post 2016 world. Fascist ass-clowns have been emboldened and are ****ing **** up and taking **** over everywhere. I can't really get behind focusing on Amazon not paying living wage or M4All when its only like 15% better than Obamacare. Don't really care what polls better.
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Old Today, 09:09 PM   #12238
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they took his phone away while they figure out wtf is in it.
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The white house/twitter silence is odd. Even if they have not read it trump would still be tweeting about it. Hope its making them have to think.
Lol he has tweeted average of 10 times a day since the invention of Twitter. I hope some leaker drops a 10,000 copies of the report on WaPos door. LETS GOOOO DEALER.
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Old Today, 09:12 PM   #12240
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they took his phone away while they figure out wtf is in it.
Could be bad maybe Mueller will report on the time TRUMP told Russia to hack the Dems on TV.
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Old Today, 09:40 PM   #12241
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Mueller Cannot Seek an Indictment. And He Must Remain Silent.

The unusual situation facing Robert Mueller does not justify a repeal of well-established traditions of confidentiality.
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[by] Ken Starr
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Lol
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Old Today, 11:10 PM   #12243
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Yeah Pompeo is scary.




They think Islam is the only answer so they are bad, because Christianity is the only answer!
Like a day ago Pompeo said he believes God sent Trump to save Israel. Who knew Trump was the chosen one?
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Old Today, 11:21 PM   #12244
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Generally speaking, bad news coming down the pipeline has made him freak out and lash out more, not go quiet... If the report said he colluded, but that DOJ doesn't indict the sitting president, and he knew that was in there, I think he'd be freaking out on Twitter about how it was a witch hunt and Mueller was a liberal hatchet man.

That said, if the report was truly totally good news for him, and he knew it, he'd be taking a huge victory lap on Twitter by now.

The only way silence makes sense is if they haven't figured out what course of action is best, and he's actually more disciplined than we all think in regard to Twitter. Like perhaps they're debating whether or not they can get away with suppressing most of the bad stuff and claiming it exonerates him, without any of it leaking to the public? In which case they wouldn't want to be attacking Mueller anymore, but if they didn't think they could get away with it, attacking Mueller more would be the play... Hence silence.

I also expected them to be selectively leaking the parts of it that made them look good by now, assuming the White House has had a look. I figured within 24 hours of the report dropping, we'd be seeing small portions leaked to the media to make Trump look good, then once Congress got the full report we'd get the entire thing leaked and see what it really said.

Is it possible that Barr hasn't given it to the White House yet and is actually reading it first?


This silence definitely doesn't make much sense at all, and I'm curious what the rest of you think is going on...
Just looking forward to the day that I could care less if Trump tweets at all!
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