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05-18-2018 , 02:19 AM
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/99...136436737?s=19

So Jared opens his mouth to talk one time, and it's an easily verifiable lie? Wasn't him leaving early part of his official statement to Congress too, or am I remembering it wrong?

It also makes you wonder why Jared would want to say he left early if "nothing happened in the meeting", early or late.

Just adoptions obviously.
05-18-2018 , 06:33 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...909912065?s=19

So not only did Obama put a spy there, but he has the spy planting evidence and manufacturing crimes. This is pure gold.
05-18-2018 , 07:40 AM
So in an official White House statement he is admitting


There is evidence of crimes to be found
The trump campaign committed crimes
05-18-2018 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jsb235
My feeling is that the DOJ, the Treasury Department and everyone else connected to this are in somewhat uncharted territory. I don't think they have ever encountered anything remotely like this investigation at this level, so they really don't have a playbook.

It really makes no sense at all to restrict access to some, but not all, of the SARs. And the only reason to restrict access - to prevent a leak - is exactly what happened because they restricted access.

The only thing I can think of is that the investigators are somewhat overwhelmed by the amount of wrongdoing they have uncovered, and are trying to figure it all out like the rest of us.
I would agree with this, and I would add that I'm having a hard time understanding what will be "the end game". I hope Mueller understands it, because I don't. Its not clear if Trump can be indicted. And if he can be, would he have to step down? Of course impeachment is possible. But what happens when Mueller reveals a list of serious crimes and Congress doesn't even blink? I don't think this system was put together with the assumption that Congress would ignor its responsibilities.
05-18-2018 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
I would agree with this, and I would add that I'm having a hard time understanding what will be "the end game". I hope Mueller understands it, because I don't. Its not clear if Trump can be indicted. And if he can be, would he have to step down? Of course impeachment is possible. But what happens when Mueller reveals a list of serious crimes and Congress doesn't even blink? I don't think this system was put together with the assumption that Congress would ignor its responsibilities.
Makes this year's, at latest 2020's, election a referendum on impeaching/re-electing Trump.
05-18-2018 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
Whatever happened to Seattlelou?


Who cares? Hopefully had a reckoning of conscience and decided to quit the forum out of shame

**** that guy so hard
05-18-2018 , 09:23 AM



05-18-2018 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Frankenstein's monster was actually very articulate, if you read the book.
Didn't the monster also teach himself how to read and write?
05-18-2018 , 09:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jU4aCA6oVhs

Trump does get the best people...
05-18-2018 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
Whatever happened to Seattlelou?
Got tired of carrying water for a fascist, I assume.
05-18-2018 , 09:39 AM
cliffs of youtube? At work and it is blocked
05-18-2018 , 09:45 AM
Rudy Giuliani explodes when CNN’s Cuomo plays clip of him saying presidents must obey subpoenas
05-18-2018 , 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippa58
But what happens when Mueller reveals a list of serious crimes and Congress doesn't even blink?
Nothing. Nothing happens.
05-18-2018 , 09:54 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...443707393?s=19

At least we have him on record admitting it's not a media or Mueller hoax anymore. Not that he won't say the opposite tomorrow.
05-18-2018 , 09:56 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...266247681?s=19

I guess it's Paranoia Day again at the White House.
05-18-2018 , 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...266247681?s=19

I guess it's Paranoia Day again at the White House.
Pretty perfect example of the norms discussion going on in the other thread. It's. Not. Normal. For. A. Sitting. President. To. Tweet. Like. That.

But goddammit don't make light jokes about SHS. And stop saying mean things about Trump. The media is UNHINGED.
05-18-2018 , 10:02 AM
Hannity briefing?
05-18-2018 , 10:03 AM
“hot” Fake News itt
05-18-2018 , 10:08 AM
The Trump "animals" comment is semi-blowing up my political twitter.

Here's what I'm torn about. I'm 99% sure that comment was said with the intention of getting the left to denounce and amplify it - which then is like free advertising for the chiefsplanets of the world - who absolutely eat up the comment, and the liberal reaction to it. It's such a huge winning move on Trump's part.

So should the left maybe not take the bait?

But on the other hand when you dehumanize people it becomes a lot easier to torture, kill, displace, etc. them. So you have to fight back.
05-18-2018 , 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...266247681?s=19

I guess it's Paranoia Day again at the White House.
That tweet uses English words but not sentence structure or word agreement.
05-18-2018 , 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
The Trump "animals" comment is semi-blowing up my political twitter.

Here's what I'm torn about. I'm 99% sure that comment was said with the intention of getting the left to denounce and amplify it - which then is like free advertising for the chiefsplanets of the world - who absolutely eat up the comment, and the liberal reaction to it. It's such a huge winning move on Trump's part.

So should the left maybe not take the bait?

But on the other hand when you dehumanize people it becomes a lot easier to torture, kill, displace, etc. them. So you have to fight back.
There is only one reasonable reply when someone derps up the MS-13 excuse. “Trump is a racist.” He has said hundreds and hundreds of clearly racist things in the last couple of years, so lol at the idea of him getting the benefit of the doubt. Put the onus on them to defend trump not being a racist. Just ignore the stupid ms-13 bruhuahua.
05-18-2018 , 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by markksman
There is only one reasonable reply when someone derps up the MS-13 excuse. “Trump is a racist.” He has said hundreds and hundreds of clearly racist things in the last couple of years, so lol at the idea of him getting the benefit of the doubt. Put the onus on them to defend trump not being a racist. Just ignore the stupid ms-13 bruhuahua.
I think you're missing my point. Of course it's racist.

But I also would bet money that 'animals' it's a calculated move - to provoke a reaction from the left, which will amplify the message 10x back to his supporters and be another big winning issue with them. They get to trash scary brown people and libtards at the same time. It's a fiesta.

Case in point. Liberal starts the thread. The rest of the forum goes bananas. Typical posts:

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Originally Posted by ping2000
Winning!
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Originally Posted by sully1983
Uh he was clearly referring to MS 13 gang bangers . And I gotta ask , what is so great about illegal aliens ? Why do liberal democrats have such a hard on for them? (Other than "white liberal guilt" of course. They are here ILLEGALLY so right off the bat they are breaking the law & taking advantage of our system . I kinda know the answer to my own question but I thought i would ask some of you libs it first. I think libs want a TON of illegals here so they can get amnesty and become Democrat voters . Its not too far fetched really .

BTW, Mexico has pretty strict immigration laws. Gee I wonder why?

What I'm trying to say is - I feel pretty confident that the 2-3 day media arc of calling out Trump as racist for the 'animals' comment will ultimately energize his supporters much more than his detractors. I feel like the Trump camp actively seeks out these situations and plays them really well.

But again - you still have to call this **** out because it's dangerous. So I don't know.

Last edited by suzzer99; 05-18-2018 at 10:37 AM.
05-18-2018 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Frankenstein's monster was actually very articulate, if you read the book.
Yeah, you know what I liked about the movie?

Spoiler:
No reading!
05-18-2018 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
Pretty perfect example of the norms discussion going on in the other thread. It's. Not. Normal. For. A. Sitting. President. To. Tweet. Like. That.

But goddammit don't make light jokes about SHS. And stop saying mean things about Trump. The media is UNHINGED.
Like in this video exchange, where Giuliani tries to tell Chris Cuomo we have no right to call Trump out when he lies.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...548292096?s=19

Trump rude & disrespectful & lying: You just don't like his style.
Calling a liar a liar: Rude & disrespectful to say about THE PRESIDENT!

"Forget Trump. If we're gonna talk about liars, why don't we talk about Comey...who's a PROVEN liar!" Awesome Rudy.
05-18-2018 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
The Trump "animals" comment is semi-blowing up my political twitter.

Here's what I'm torn about. I'm 99% sure that comment was said with the intention of getting the left to denounce and amplify it - which then is like free advertising for the chiefsplanets of the world - who absolutely eat up the comment, and the liberal reaction to it. It's such a huge winning move on Trump's part.

So should the left maybe not take the bait?

But on the other hand when you dehumanize people it becomes a lot easier to torture, kill, displace, etc. them. So you have to fight back.
The whole point of religion is to make you "more worthy" and others "less worthy" of God, whatever. Even when the religion has a figure such as Christ, the vast majority of idiots can only understand, if you don't believe my religion you are less worthy which leads to....

less valuable
less or non-human
ok to enslave
ok to kill

      
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