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01-29-2017 , 02:12 PM

#2651

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

rekt

01-29-2017 , 02:14 PM

#2652

Bullycider

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

go on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

01-29-2017 , 02:15 PM

#2653

Csaba

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There's some crackers on that Trump hotels thread.

01-29-2017 , 02:19 PM

#2654

JPantz

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They were talking to this kid waiting for his parents last night on MSNBC. They told him live on TV about the court decision. I went out to dinner. He is still there waiting for his parents.

01-29-2017 , 02:20 PM

#2655

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by Bullycider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

Quote:

... This balance at international borders means that routine searches are "reasonable" there, and therefore do not violate the Fourth Amendment's proscription against "unreasonable searches and seizures".

you were saying?

01-29-2017 , 02:28 PM

#2656

Max Cut

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01-29-2017 , 02:30 PM

#2657

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Originally Posted by Bullycider

can you point out any laws that have been broken or do you just have a wish to see those with differing political views jailed?

Well the leadership of the executive branch appears to be currently in contempt of a federal judge's emergency stay, so there's that.

01-29-2017 , 02:31 PM

#2658

champstark

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Apparently it's a conservative Facebook meme now to post something on illegal immigration that Bill Clinton said in 1995 or something to show how Democrats are being hypocritical....

01-29-2017 , 02:38 PM

#2659

425kid

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Graham and McCain finally make a statement.

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Our government has a responsibility to defend our borders, but we must do so in a way that makes us safer and upholds all that is decent and exceptional about our nation.

It is clear from the confusion at our airports across the nation that President Trump’s executive order was not properly vetted. We are particularly concerned by reports that this order went into effect with little to no consultation with the Departments of State, Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security.

Such a hasty process risks harmful results. We should not stop green-card holders from returning to the country they call home. We should not stop those who have served as interpreters for our military and diplomats from seeking refuge in the country they risked their lives to help. And we should not turn our backs on those refugees who have been shown through extensive vetting to pose no demonstrable threat to our nation, and who have suffered unspeakable horrors, most of them women and children.

Ultimately, we fear this executive order will become a self-inflicted wound in the fight against terrorism. At this very moment, American troops are fighting side-by-side with our Iraqi partners to defeat ISIL. But this executive order bans Iraqi pilots from coming to military bases in Arizona to fight our common enemies. Our most important allies in the fight against ISIL are the vast majority of Muslims who reject its apocalyptic ideology of hatred. This executive order sends a signal, intended or not, that America does not want Muslims coming into our country. That is why we fear this executive order may do more to help terrorist recruitment than improve our security.

http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/...5-CF30F0A77889

01-29-2017 , 02:38 PM

#2660

WillieWin?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Apparently it's a conservative Facebook meme now to post something on illegal immigration that Bill Clinton said in 1995 or something to show how Democrats are being hypocritical....

This one?

(The first one I found, props to the uploader for being so meticulous).

01-29-2017 , 02:41 PM

#2661

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Canada has accepted almost 40,000 Syrian refugees since 2015 and had zero terror attacks. The US just permanently banned refugees from this same country, a place where suffering is of a magnitude not seen in decades.

Which country is the shining light on a Hill?

Didn't you guys have that one terror attack in a government building?

Anyway, it seems very likely that ISIS terrorists will try to get in western countries by posing as refugees. It shouldn't matter though, that just means we have a more difficult job. It is not a reason to turn away people who have lost almost everything and have seen horrific things. Turning away those people is exactly what ISIS wants, too. You can be certain that ISIS will have many new recruits because of what has happened in the past 48 hours.

01-29-2017 , 02:42 PM

#2662

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Apparently it's a conservative Facebook meme now to post something on illegal immigration that Bill Clinton said in 1995 or something to show how Democrats are being hypocritical....

Soros should hire Ukrainian bots to respond to each and every one of those posts with the Mike Pence tweet

https://twitter.com/GovPenceIN/statu...49808610066433

01-29-2017 , 02:42 PM

#2663

Jbrochu

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But this executive order bans Iraqi pilots from coming to military bases in Arizona to fight our common enemies.

I like how the McCain/Graham statement recognizes how many anti-American enemies reside in Arizona.

01-29-2017 , 02:43 PM

#2664

bombonca

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When he announced U.S. Embassy moving to Jerusalem it was clear he will be terrible.

01-29-2017 , 02:44 PM

#2665

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US boots on the ground in Yemen. 1 US Soldier killed. 30 Yemeni killed including 10 women and children.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspected...065708256.html

01-29-2017 , 02:44 PM

#2666

El_Timon

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Those reports of Reince Priebus resigning look completely false after watching him on meet the press. He seems to have drank the Kool aid: regret nothing, never apologize, twist other's words, lie blatantly. This is a sad state of affairs.

01-29-2017 , 02:47 PM

#2667

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbfg

Didn't you guys have that one terror attack in a government building?

Anyway, it seems very likely that ISIS terrorists will try to get in western countries by posing as refugees. It shouldn't matter though, that just means we have a more difficult job. It is not a reason to turn away people who have lost almost everything and have seen horrific things. Turning away those people is exactly what ISIS wants, too. You can be certain that ISIS will have many new recruits because of what has happened in the past 48 hours.

Notably, crimes occasionally occur in Canada.

01-29-2017 , 02:48 PM

#2668

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

US boots on the ground in Yemen. 1 US Soldier killed. 30 Yemeni killed including 10 women and children.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspected...065708256.html

And here is where Trump endears himself to the military industrial complex and all hope is lost.

01-29-2017 , 02:50 PM

#2669

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

I like how the McCain/Graham statement recognizes how many anti-American enemies reside in Arizona.

?

I reckon it's for training.

01-29-2017 , 02:53 PM

#2670

dlk9s

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Originally Posted by lastdayever

Also, you guys will be fine. What do you think will change in your lives throughout this year? I bet for most of you, nothing will change.

This attitude is a problem.

01-29-2017 , 02:54 PM

#2671

13ball

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbfg

Anyway, it seems very likely that ISIS terrorists will try to get in western countries by posing as refugees.

That would be a really dumb way to do things. It takes years and there's tons of vetting involved. Seems easier to just find people who can get visas or get visas to Canada and stroll across the border somewhere in North Dakota.

This whole stupid mess won't deter attackers who are willing to kill themselves. It's pretty dumb.

01-29-2017 , 02:55 PM

#2672

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

?

I reckon it's for training.

Of course. The sentence was a typo so I riffed a joke.

Joke was reliant upon understanding (from my point of view) that Arizona appears to be chock full of deplorables AKA anti American enemies.

01-29-2017 , 03:01 PM

#2673

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Of course. The sentence was a typo so I riffed a joke.

Joke was reliant upon understanding (from my point of view) that Arizona appears to be chock full of deplorables AKA anti American enemies.

Lo Siento. I sorta thought it was a joke, but wasn't sure.

Arizona is a mix imo. If it weren't for old people being much better at voting it'd probably be a reliably blue state.