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04-06-2017 , 11:00 AM

#24726

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

So it was the same as the rest of the country.

The point here being that NY state is blue even without NYC, because there are three more large urban areas upstate, plus Syracuse & Ithaca, and a big chunk of the Hudson Valley that leans liberal.

04-06-2017 , 11:00 AM

#24727

Sighsalot

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is conaway any better than this buffoon?

04-06-2017 , 11:03 AM

#24728

Huehuecoyotl

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No, Conaway is a nutter as well.

04-06-2017 , 11:06 AM

#24729

microbet

Solar Powered

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Huey,

Yeah. I did post Love Canal in particular because, as you can see from the quote, they at least came close to murdering people intentionally out of greed. The deaths caused partly through greed and the lack of political will to make the currently viable improvements in technology like the 200k early deaths in the US each year where air pollution is a factor have a much more distributed guilt.

Of course examples would be a lot more plentiful and clear in a world without the EPA and other protections. Well actually, That is the world in places like the Nigerian Delta.

Last edited by microbet; 04-06-2017 at 11:11 AM.

04-06-2017 , 11:17 AM

#24730

Rococo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

The point here being that NY state is blue even without NYC, because there are three more large urban areas upstate, plus Syracuse & Ithaca, and a big chunk of the Hudson Valley that leans liberal.

If you take away NYC, New York votes a lot like Pennsylvania in recent times -- that is, narrowly blue most of the time, but it's close and not guaranteed.

04-06-2017 , 11:17 AM

#24731

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chippa58

The word temporary is a little confusing. I think he's done with the Russia probe permanently, but not done as Committee Chair as it relates to other issues.

Recusal is temporary while he clears his name of the liberal smears against him. Lol. Conaway may have the same agenda but is a CPA and has investigated and found corruption. He doesn't seem like a complete clown.

04-06-2017 , 11:20 AM

#24732

TheHip41

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gutting the EPA and repealing rules like the "stream Protection act" are small scale versions of murdering people.

The climate change deniers and pushing the agenda to completely pollute the earth are so much worse than chemical weapons. They are going to kill every living human with their actions.

04-06-2017 , 11:35 AM

#24733

Our House

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Yay about Nunes. But I do have a question considering this Conaway guy isn't much better: How is it that moves made by the Trump WH and Nunes aren't subject to obstruction charges? I mean, can Trump just continue to use his power of the Presidency to spread misleading and misdirecting smears against every single aspect of the investigation against him without any consequence other than loss of credibility?

04-06-2017 , 11:45 AM

#24734

Huehuecoyotl

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From Twitter, on O'Reilly and the anonymous sexual harassment hotline

Quote:

Brown did not respond to my question of how it would be possible for O’Reilly to speak knowledgeably about complaints to the hotline if indeed it is anonymous and confidential.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.85815af9c920

04-06-2017 , 11:59 AM

#24735

Our House

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Also from Twitter on O'Reilly...

You can't make this stuff up!

04-06-2017 , 12:10 PM

#24736

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

New York City does, like 4 or 5 to 1. Upstate NY however was heavily in the tank for Trump for a while. Not sure if there have been any recent shifts though.

true story- my nextdoor neighbor growing up (6 yrs older than me) developed multiple sclerosis that is so bad he can't even work, now lives in long island, is married to a complete ***** with 5 kids, and frequently argues on facebook with people about how he's not sorry and will never be sorry that he voted trump, "because trump's pro-life"

ANOTHER SATISFIED CUSTOMER

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

04-06-2017 , 12:17 PM

#24737

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Remains so strange how every single DS hot take is thinly veiled right wing nonsense.

I always used to pawn off DS's posts as overthinking or some exercise in mental masturbation that he wanted to shoot all over the forum to show everybody how smart he is.

But that post about Israel might have been the dumbest thing I've ever read from him. It actually makes professional trolls like Sushy look better by comparison.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Please name even one right wing position that you think I hold?

Jim Crow-esque voting restrictions

04-06-2017 , 12:18 PM

#24738

Our House

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Yeah, Trump became pro life strictly for the sake of running Republican. He didn't even understand the position enough to half-assedly debate it.

04-06-2017 , 12:19 PM

#24739

TheNewT50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JPantz

Just to clarify -

Republicans and the WH think that the "unmasking" is the crime and everyone else thinks that the Trump admin committing treason is the crime? Right?

I've been spending a lot of time driving through different **** towns in eastern Washington and Oregon the last few weeks. I occasionally throw on conservative radio to kill the time. Yesterday, Hannity was saying that he believe Rice and others will be in jail because of the "unmasking". They are just stupid right? Like how does everyone on the right not understand that the reason Trump people were unmasked is because they were talking with ****ing Russian operatives?

This unmasking thing is an outrageous farce--an actual witch hunt (aside: isn't it interesting how Trump not only projects his deceit onto others, but he also does so preemptively??). Republicans, specifically Nunes, have been pressing for less protection and more widespread dissemination of the information gleaned from incidental surveillance for years.

But of course the party has no principles whatsoever and will switch from advocating for something to reeling in shock and horror at the gambling going on in this establishment in a matter of days.

04-06-2017 , 12:19 PM

#24740

OmgGlutten!

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How many times has McCain and all the other Rhinos done this:

"This is a really really horrible idea. I am super super worried that America is going down the drain. We should not be doing this. This is NOT the way it is supposed to be. I am deeply troubled.

I vote YES."

04-06-2017 , 12:19 PM

#24741

Huehuecoyotl

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On the legislative filibuster this is a good point

https://twitter.com/DixonsPlace/stat...17959682740225

04-06-2017 , 12:19 PM

#24742

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Long Island(and Staten Island) aren't upstate

04-06-2017 , 12:21 PM

#24743

TheNewT50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Also from Twitter on O'Reilly...

You can't make this stuff up!

That's seriously a new book? The cover looks like it's designed by a 9th grader whose older sibling is taking an intro to Adobe Photoshop course and helped out for fifteen minutes.

04-06-2017 , 12:27 PM

#24744

FlyWf

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The peace candidate

04-06-2017 , 12:28 PM

#24745

+rep_lol

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didnt they already send like 500 troops in without notifying congress tho?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...330-story.html

Quote:

Earlier this month, the Pentagon quietly dispatched 400 Marines to northern Syria to operate artillery in support of Syrian militias that are cooperating in the fight against Islamic State, according to U.S. officials. That was the first use of U.S. Marines in that country since its long civil war began.

In Iraq, nearly 300 Army paratroopers were deployed recently to help the Iraqi military in their six-month assault on the city of Mosul, according to U.S. officials.

04-06-2017 , 12:30 PM

#24746

champstark

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Long Island(and Staten Island) aren't upstate

Depends on who you ask. Staten Island isn't, but Long Island is to many New Yorkers.

source: people I know

also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York (saying it is debatable)