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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

04-06-2017 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
1) We have had Jewish people in foreign policy before

2) This is insanely simplistic

3) "one of their own" is some aggressively anti-Semitic phrasing, David.
I agree with all three of your statements but they don't change my conclusion that Kushner's chances are better than people think. (Part of our disagreement stems from the fact that non orthodox Jews are not really Jews in many religious Jews eyes.)
04-06-2017 , 12:46 AM
Here's an idea. Somebody with actual diplomatic experience, somebody that's actually experienced in government, somebody who has fought and won incredibly tough battles in the political world. Somebody like that instead of Kushner might, just might have a better shot at success diplomatically.

Also it would probably have a better chance of success without 45* defunding the State Dept like a mad dog:
Trump wants to slash State Department budget by 28 percent, shift money to defense
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump...ry?id=46151210
04-06-2017 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I agree with all three of your statements but they don't change my conclusion that Kushner's chances are better than people think. (Part of our disagreement stems from the fact that non orthodox Jews are not really Jews in many religious Jews eyes.)
You know Netanyahu isn't orthodox, right?

#whyamIrespondingtoatroll
04-06-2017 , 12:51 AM
Kushner is like Trump. He knows nothing about anything. He's rich but other rich people don't accept him into the old money cliques. That's why they are kindred spirits. And none of those are good reasons that either should be anywhere near anything government related. Unfortunately that is not the case.
04-06-2017 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Can you imagine with all the things you have to do and all the cool things you get to do and all the people in the world who would love to come talk to you and all the people who could just make it all happen with you barely lifting a finger as POTUS and then just sitting around watching TV?
It's odd isn't it? If I was POTUS and didn't give a **** about the job, I'd at least be looking at classified **** to see if aliens are real or who killed JFK. I sure as hell wouldn't be watching Fox and Friends and bitching about the person I beat in the general election.

Has there been a president this lazy? Just in pure laziness lying around and watching TV. GW Bush jumps out of airplanes in his spare time. Jimmy Carter builds houses. I bet Donny is annoyed the WH is so big. Probably has to walk 300 feet to take a piss every 45 minutes in the middle of the night.
04-06-2017 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Remains so strange how every single DS hot take is thinly veiled right wing nonsense.
You'd think the guy who literally wrote the book on poker would have fewer tells.
04-06-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
You know Netanyahu isn't orthodox, right?

#whyamIrespondingtoatroll
Do you mean ultra orthodox? In any case he is close enough if he thinks Jerusalem should have extra importance because of religious factors.
04-06-2017 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
You'd think the guy who literally wrote the book on poker would have fewer tells.
Please name even one right wing position that you think I hold?
04-06-2017 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Please name even one right wing position that you think I hold?
All of them?
04-06-2017 , 01:14 AM
So it looks like they've pieced together the craziness that's been going around.

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With a bit of informed speculation I suggested that what likely happened is that Mike Flynn protege Ezra Cohen-Watnick was freelancing and started his own 'review' of surveillance intercepts of the Trump transition, took his findings to the White House Counsel's office only to get told to stop since lawyers would have seen the dangerous (to the White House) business he was up to. Shut down by the Counsel's office, he decided to do an end-run around his bosses and go to Devin Nunes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...at-s-confirmed

That's why Nunez had to go to the White House to meet with his 'source' instead of the info just being passed to him. It wasn't going through the normal channels, it was Flynn's protégé making an end run around the normal protocols to avoid this exact scenario, rogue intelligence people doing their own political agendas which create problems for the White House.

John Marshall goes a bit further than that

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Cohen-Watnick is still in place. But he was put in his place on that front. And I suspect the on-going Susan Rice brouhaha is more the fluff and flotsam of partisans than anything we'll see later as a matter of any real consequence. I also suspect that we'll eventually see that Bannon's demotion, Cohen-Watnick's interaction with the Counsel's Office and even today's comments by the President as being part of one interconnected story.

That story looks in large part to be the growing power and authority of McMaster. But I think we can also widen our field of view to see a wider picture. Donald Trump will never become normal. He's a psychically damaged, impulsive, clownish man. He'll never change. The Russia scandal of which he is the epicenter continues to metastasize with a mix of counter-intelligence, law enforcement and congressional inquiries. That's not going away. At the same time, the people who were at the center of it are going away, or at least they are being reduced in their power and influence. Bannon and Flynn - whatever their role in the Russia scandal - are both people who embodied the melange of extremism and corruption which typified Trump and his campaign. Slowly but surely those people are being pushed from the center of power.

Growing in power are people like McMaster, McGahn, Mattis and others.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...ieces-together

He hypothesizes that having Jared do his take your President's son-in-law to work day in Iraq was the military trying to get his ear and impress upon him away from Trump and Bannon. I guess we'll see.
04-06-2017 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Please name even one right wing position that you think I hold?
That liberals should prejudge Muslims like conservatives.
04-06-2017 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
All of them?
Obviously you are joking. But sometimes I wonder whether people realize that I am in favor of things like gun control, gay marriage, a much higher top tax rate and lots of other stuff along those lines. I can't think of even one thing where I agree with right wingers. So name one please.
04-06-2017 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
That liberals should prejudge Muslims like conservatives.
No I don't. You are confusing that with my stance that one should base probability evidence based on all statistical evidence. But then I go on to believe that small statistical differences should be ignored if there are good reasons to do so.
04-06-2017 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Please name even one right wing position that you think I hold?
You never went hard at Trump pre election, and although I haven't been keeping up with threads lately I bet you haven't been complaining about him post election either. You indulged in made up scenarios where *surprise surprise* you concluded Trump just might be good for America (or surely not as bad as people were saying.) I dunno, man, you're suspect. Also, I'm Ron Burgundy?
04-06-2017 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Here's an idea. Somebody with actual diplomatic experience, somebody that's actually experienced in government, somebody who has fought and won incredibly tough battles in the political world. Somebody like that instead of Kushner might, just might have a better shot at success diplomatically.
But they haven't. Which brings us into the realm of sports betting of all things. The bookies line is so good that sports experts can't beat them. But the guy who has kept track of what each team has eaten the night before might just find an angle that gives him the best of it even if he barely knows the rules of the game.
04-06-2017 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Please name even one right wing position that you think I hold?
You think government employees are very stoopid because they studied subjects other than STEM. If only more mathematicians were in high government office things would be so much better.
04-06-2017 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I am in favor of a net worth tax on multimillionaires that helps anyone who has even a half decent reason to be in trouble. The only people I have no sympathy for are those people who in high school not only thought learning math was dumb but who made fun of those who felt otherwise. It is really only them who I want to see suffer a little.
Here's a post that shows you support right wingers. You think people deserve to suffer.
04-06-2017 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Wait. You have held jobs as both a porn director and a college English professor. You might be the only person in the world to have held both jobs.
lol....maybe!
04-06-2017 , 02:08 AM
lol i almost brought that up
04-06-2017 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I agree with all three of your statements but they don't change my conclusion that Kushner's chances are better than people think. (Part of our disagreement stems from the fact that non orthodox Jews are not really Jews in many religious Jews eyes.)
No orthodox Jew I ever met considered me (an athiest) not to be a Jew. And I briefly lived in a Chabad House and I did a big consulting project for Chabad as well. Every time I met with the Rabbi he made me put on tefillin. Every morning at the Chabad House they tried to get me to come to minyan. And now in the solar business in LA a lot of the people I do business with are Israeli and they all think I'm as Jewish as Moses.
04-06-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Do you mean ultra orthodox? In any case he is close enough if he thinks Jerusalem should have extra importance because of religious factors.
Bibi's wiki says he was raised secular and raised his kids secular.
04-06-2017 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by th14
You think government employees are very stoopid because they studied subjects other than STEM. If only more mathematicians were in high government office things would be so much better.
Slightly exaggerated but true. I was persuaded to have this stance by Sean Hannity and several Evangelical Christians. So I guess you are right after all.
04-06-2017 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Here's a post that shows you support right wingers. You think people deserve to suffer.
Wow I feel like Gary Hart when he challenged people to prove he was a philanderer. Big mistake. I have been unmasked.
04-06-2017 , 02:28 AM
Unmasked?

RV Life = Susan Rice?
04-06-2017 , 03:13 AM
It appears that Orrin Hatch said that all democrats are stupid. For the second time. I'm adding him to my list of completely deplorable humans.

      
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