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04-05-2017 , 09:51 PM
The idea that Bannon was there to keep an eye on Flynn is pretty high up on the stupidity rankings. For a media guy he's not very good at spin.

Here's my spin: Bannon was sidelined because of the SNL skits and other bits about his power over Trump.
04-05-2017 , 09:53 PM
How about the idea that Flynn was fired for lying to good old honest naive Mr Pence?
04-05-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
How about the idea that Flynn was fired for lying to good old honest naive Mr Pence?
A fairly obvious lie, but it would be plausible if you were raised by wolves. Knowing the parties involved, lol at getting fired for lying and lol at it being for making someone other than Trump look bad.
04-05-2017 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
My presumption is that Kushner will be a major part of the negotiations, not just Trump's Jewish friend. Has there ever been an Orthodox Jew leading the American side in the past? This could help not only because Israel would trust him more and would like to see credit be given one of their own, but also because Kushner might have a better feel for what issues Israel could be persuaded to relent on.
1) We have had Jewish people in foreign policy before

2) This is insanely simplistic

3) "one of their own" is some aggressively anti-Semitic phrasing, David.
04-05-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet

Here's my spin: Bannon was sidelined because of the SNL skits and other bits about his power over Trump.
It's either that, or the nsc put pressure to get him out, or it's something that we have no clue what really happened.

the official or altright spins are pretty lol.
04-05-2017 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Also,



This is still plagiarism. I mean, unless it's something very well known like Maxwell's equations if you're using a formula or definition you found elsewhere the source should be cited.
A formula is quite different from a definition. A formula is always cited ime.

"Well known" is an interesting notion in math research, and basically the phrase is used very widely to apply to a class of things that are not actually that well known, but have been around for a while and that researchers in the very specific subfield are aware of. Definitions that are deemed "well known" or "standard" will often be recalled without citation. New definitions are usually cited, but if the definition is natural in some sense (e.g. analogous to "well-known" definitions) I've seen the citation skipped.

Maybe the above counts as plagiarism according to the dictionary or the rules of other fields, but afaict math researchers don't seem to mind. They do care about plagiarism, but not in this manner.

ETA: Your typical math paper is full of citations btw. It's not like it's the Wild West over in math world.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 04-05-2017 at 10:08 PM.
04-05-2017 , 10:02 PM
David you cape up for these people and they call you **** being your ****ing back. I know it flatters you that one of the many stereotypes they believe about Jews is "good with numbers", but what the ****.
04-05-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The idea that Bannon was there to keep an eye on Flynn is pretty high up on the stupidity rankings. For a media guy he's not very good at spin.

Here's my spin: Bannon was sidelined because of the SNL skits and other bits about his power over Trump.
Ivanka and Kushner get official offices and shortly after Bannon gets booted?

Seems to me his fam helped the dornald realize just how unpopular Bannon's style of white nationalism was making trump
04-05-2017 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
It's either that, or the nsc put pressure to get him out, or it's something still unknown that we dont know what really happened.
The NYT said he basically only pushed identity politics and kushner and cohn got sick of him, basically.

Seems correct that when talking about Healthcare Bannon just kept riling about black crime and everyone else had enough.
04-05-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The idea that Bannon was there to keep an eye on Flynn is pretty high up on the stupidity rankings. For a media guy he's not very good at spin.

Here's my spin: Bannon was sidelined because of the SNL skits and other bits about his power over Trump.




04-05-2017 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
My presumption is that Kushner will be a major part of the negotiations, not just Trump's Jewish friend. Has there ever been an Orthodox Jew leading the American side in the past? This could help not only because Israel would trust him more and would like to see credit be given one of their own, but also because Kushner might have a better feel for what issues Israel could be persuaded to relent on.
Wow wat? The idea here is that an American born and bred real estate developer will have a better "feel" for the state of Israel's political objectives with respect to peace negotiations w/ the Palestinians, bc, well, you know how tight jews are, amirite?

JFC, some of the **** you come up with is completely inane.
04-05-2017 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl




Here's an FYI: Bannon approached Jeff Sessions to run for President before he went to Trump.

Last edited by Our House; 04-05-2017 at 10:27 PM. Reason: Added quote.
04-05-2017 , 10:25 PM
Ib4 Sklansky posts that it's racist to call a racist racist.
04-05-2017 , 10:36 PM
Remains so strange how every single DS hot take is thinly veiled right wing nonsense.
04-05-2017 , 10:47 PM
When Bannon was in the NSC, he didn't attend meetings. Now that he's out, he's attending them. You just can't LOL enough at this clown show of an administration.

04-05-2017 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Seems to me his fam helped the dornald realize just how unpopular Bannon's style of white nationalism was making trump
Apparently Bannon's only job on the NSC was to keep Flynn's Russia shenannigans in check. I think he'll still be in Trump's inner circle Wormtounging racist conspiracy theories into his ear.
04-05-2017 , 10:50 PM
Right wingers want to drug test everyone...can we get a BAC test on this *******? Cause his face looks like just about every late stage alcoholic I've ever seen.
04-05-2017 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The idea that Bannon was there to keep an eye on Flynn is pretty high up on the stupidity rankings. For a media guy he's not very good at spin.

Here's my spin: Bannon was sidelined because of the SNL skits and other bits about his power over Trump.
Maybe he was sidelined because he directed an illegal fishing expedition of highly classified NSC intercepts? (I'm not even sure what the WH did was illegal and haven't heard this point argued, but it strikes me as plausible.)
04-05-2017 , 11:39 PM
Damn, I'm getting some good quoting action on that post.
04-05-2017 , 11:44 PM
Bannon didn't lose anything in security clearances is why I said that. Tis a shame he didn't quit since he's still in the top 5 of hey hey ho ho, this guy has to go list in the admin.

Still, the infighting in the admin is nice, keep it up guys.
04-05-2017 , 11:58 PM
Heh heh

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/u...en-bannon.html
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Moreover, Mr. Bannon’s Svengali-style reputation has chafed on a president who sees himself as the West Wing’s only leading man. Several associates said the president had quietly expressed annoyance over the credit Mr. Bannon had received for setting the agenda — and Mr. Trump was not pleased by the “President Bannon” puppet-master theme promoted by magazines, late-night talk shows and Twitter.
04-06-2017 , 12:13 AM
Can you imagine with all the things you have to do and all the cool things you get to do and all the people in the world who would love to come talk to you and all the people who could just make it all happen with you barely lifting a finger as POTUS and then just sitting around watching TV?
04-06-2017 , 12:21 AM
Watching tv is a way to take his mind off a hard day's telling lies or playing golf. Give the man a break.
04-06-2017 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
It's the Pouting Purge.
04-06-2017 , 12:35 AM
Can you imagine a 74 year old trump running for president?

goddamn

ps: the donald and other altright brainwashers are pushing for rand paul in 2024 (or 2020 after impeachment ofc )

      
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