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04-05-2017 , 12:38 PM

#24426

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Originally Posted by einbert

Some, but I think a lot more voted for Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Bernie Sanders, or just didn't show up to vote at all. Or even left their ballot blank. But I'll give an example of what I mean: Caitlin Jenner. A person who is supposedly all about LGBT rights, but when it comes right down to it, money is more important than human rights (because she has her own money and property and doesn't have to worry about being subject to the same humiliations as normal everyday trans people). The same goes for Ivanka and a lot of white people in general.

Isn't Caitlin Jenner an avowed Republican? She's just an idiot.

BTW, this is the sort of objectively verifiable info that you don't need to speculate about too much -- there's plenty of data available.

04-05-2017 , 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

True, however

-The internet privacy bill has already been passed by both houses and signed into law.
-The Resistance needs to take this as a sign to double down on our efforts rather than relaxing and becoming complacent. The activism is working, but as soon as we let off the gas we are going to get pummeled.

I agree. I mentioned the Internet bill and I'm disappointed there wasn't more coverage of it. That said, we were going to lose some battles and that one wasn't the worst to lose. It's upsetting, but it's not life and death.

I agree about the resistance needing to keep working hard, but I will say the good thing is that there should be networks in place now to mobilize it quickly when really bad things are in the works. So I'm not too worried about people not being as engaged constantly.

04-05-2017 , 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kre8tive

Fyp

Rumor has it if you whisper "gorka isn't a nazi" three times into a mirror Broadway shows up behind you.

04-05-2017 , 12:40 PM

#24429

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Maybe but she's supposedly a friend of the LGBT and trans community or what people would call an "ally." Any Republican is a false ally, but many call themselves progressives or claim to support progressive causes or values.

04-05-2017 , 12:41 PM

#24430

Majik19

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

So Bannon was just keeping an eye on Flynn because Flynn, it's implied, had some crazy eyes and some Russian shenanigans ( and who was intentionally hired by Trump), and also Rice, who no one really mentioned until this week specifically for the whole "unmasking" schtick, but also he never went to a meeting so he actually didn't know what was going on?

It could be that guys are operating on so many different chess levels it's hard to keep up it could be that they're so dumb they're trying to leak something to cover all bases and failing to do cover any of them because it's so transparent what they're trying to do.

I just checked Breitbart and the story doesn't even hit the trending list. Shocking.

04-05-2017 , 12:42 PM

#24431

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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

Another great paragraph from Fly's article

Cowards sure, but RINOs? Lying behind a smile is the hallmark of real Republicans going back to Reagan's voodoo economics.

04-05-2017 , 12:42 PM

#24432

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Hell I was arguing with a guy about voter ID (bahbahmickey) in P7.0 and telling him MLK Jr. would have fought like hell against him, and he thought that he and MLK Jr. agreed on "almost everything" and would have been on the same side! He definitely thinks he believes in civil rights, when really he supports Jim Crow 2.0 through and through.

04-05-2017 , 12:46 PM

#24433

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Originally Posted by einbert

If progressives actively allowed Trump to be elected by their own actions joining the other points on the political spectrum, then Trump's election is even more legitimate and was universally accepted by almost all. Tough **** that you have buyers remorse.

04-05-2017 , 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

Anyone "progressive" who voted for Gary Johnson has a very idiosyncratic definition of the word "progressive." Here's my take:

Gary Johnson voters -- mainly comprised of "both parties are the same" cranks and GOP voters who were too embarrassed to tell their friends that they voted for Trump.

Jill Stein voters -- idiots, as far as I'm concerned, but unrealistic dreamers if you want to be super charitable

People who stayed home -- **** the Bernie supporters who stayed home because their guy didn't win. Not electing Trump was always the most important outcome of this presidential election. I guess I can give ardent GOP supporters a pass if they stayed home because they were repulsed by Trump. But mostly **** them too. Avoiding Trump was more than enough reason to vote for the other team.

04-05-2017 , 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Rumor has it if you whisper "gorka isn't a nazi" three times into a mirror Broadway shows up behind you.

I'm under the impression that BroadwaySushy is an old brit. Maybe his Dad was Oswald Mosley and that's why he is so sympatico with Gorka.

04-05-2017 , 12:48 PM

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Trump defending Bill O now: https://nyti.ms/2nYhOgv

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Mr. Trump criticized media outlets, including The New York Times, for failing to adequately cover the Rice controversy — while singling out Fox News and the host Bill O’Reilly for praise, despite reports this week that the veteran conservative commentator settled five lawsuits filed by women claiming sexual harassment or inappropriate behavior. The president then went on to defend Mr. O’Reilly, who has hosted him frequently over the years.

“I think he’s a person I know well — he is a good person,” said Mr. Trump, who during the interview was surrounded at his desk by a half-dozen of his highest-ranking aides, including the economic adviser Gary Cohn and Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, along with Vice President Mike Pence.

“I think he shouldn’t have settled; personally I think he shouldn’t have settled,” said Mr. Trump. “Because you should have taken it all the way. I don’t think Bill did anything wrong.”

04-05-2017 , 12:49 PM

#24437

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Originally Posted by Rococo

SCT appointments have always been held to a higher standard than Circuit court appointments.

Yeah this is one of HD's all time worst takes.

04-05-2017 , 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Trump defending Bill O now: https://nyti.ms/2nYhOgv

On a slight tangent, does Trump actually believe his own lies that he never settles lawsuits?

04-05-2017 , 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Trump defending Bill O now: https://nyti.ms/2nYhOgv

How in the world anyone can read the Bill O'Reilly lawsuit that resulted in the big settlement and still defend him as a good guy is beyond me. If even half of the allegations are true, he is a complete POS, completely separate and apart from his politics.

04-05-2017 , 12:55 PM

#24440

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Originally Posted by microbet

On a slight tangent, does Trump actually believe his own lies that he never settles lawsuits?

He has probably convinced himself that when his lawyers do it he isn't personally settling a lawsuit.

04-05-2017 , 12:57 PM

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Because 45* does the same things and probably worse.

04-05-2017 , 01:00 PM

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You are a pretty miserable human if you are adopting Daddy as an appropriate model of personal behavior.

04-05-2017 , 01:00 PM

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This tweet was in response to Fox News blurb on bannon being removed from the NSC.

https://mobile.twitter.com/trumpdivi...59933536735232

04-05-2017 , 01:00 PM

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It doesn't surprise me at all that 45* would defend Bill-O. It does put this action into a particularly disgusting light though:

President Trump proclaims April ‘National Sexual Assault Awareness Month’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7662856.html

04-05-2017 , 01:00 PM

#24445

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Originally Posted by einbert

Because 45* does the same things and probably worse.

...and still thinks of himself as a "good guy." Just like mob bosses believe they are good family men.

04-05-2017 , 01:01 PM

#24446

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You are a pretty miserable human if you are adopting Daddy as an appropriate model of personal behavior.

You keep conflating what makes people a miserable person against actual human behavior. Yeah, I don't know what makes us more miserable--the fact that 60 million voted for him in the first place or the fact that he's now a role model that sets standards of behaviors. But like it or not, that's the case for millions of people now.

04-05-2017 , 01:02 PM

#24447

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Originally Posted by einbert

Because 45* does the same things and probably worse.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3611425/don...w-revelations/

Quote:

According to Hurt, who had access to the court papers filed by Ivana Trump, the real estate mogul once violently tore her hair out and then forced himself on her sexually after undergoing a “painful scalp reduction” operation.

“Trump was furious that a ‘scalp reduction’ operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, ‘with menacing casualness, “Does it hurt?”‘”

Hey awval, this is the guy you voted for.

04-05-2017 , 01:04 PM

#24448

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Has Billy O addressed it on his show or publically yet? He sure didn't have a problem doing so in the past.

04-05-2017 , 01:05 PM

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Twelve is getting into Bill Cosby territory, isn't it? At some point Hannibal Burress has to write a 45* joke and all this will come crashing down.

Here are 12 women who made allegations against Trump this week
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...sday/91984974/

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Twelve women came forward this week to allege sexual misconduct by Donald Trump in cases that echo the vulgar conduct he described in the 2005 Access Hollywood tape that surfaced last week. Trump has denied the stories and is threatening legal action against some of the news outlets.

Trump and his running mate Mike Pence have said the campaign will soon provide evidence proving the charges are false.

[...Too damn many to list...]