President Cheeto talks about Hillary all the time, therefore she's available


You are trying to make the point that the US people get to select the next SC justice.

Obama had more votes than Romney

Hillary had more votes than Cheeto


So no matter what line you are trying to pull (pre/post election) The US voice is with the Dems

/ignore

No one will care. But of course they SHOULD care. Gorsuch violated basic research ethics that are taught to college freshmen.

But the worst part is that his defenders are claiming that this isn't plagiarism:

http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-...harges-gorsuch

That is still plagiarism.

Gorsuch:
1) Copied word for word from one of his sources.
2) Failed to cite the source that he copied from.

That strongly suggests that he was attempting to hide the fact that he was copying.

In any case, if a college student submits this type of plagiarism they will at the very least receive an F on the paper--and possibly for the class. They will also receive a letter indicating the finding of plagiarism. They will then be subject to suspension or expulsion on a second plagiarism finding.

Shouldn't we hold lifelong SCOTUS appointments to the same standards we hold college freshmen?

lol

No it's not.

He probably was at the very top of that range given that he got a Supreme Court clerkship. And he also has a PhD. I doubt he is as smart as Obama, but that's the most tepid of indictments.

I've never met Gorsuch. For all I know, he is the most miserable human being in the world. But his background certainly passes the red face test for a Supreme Court nominee. Arguing that he is too dim-witted or poorly-credentialed to be considered is just a losing battle. And anyone who presses the point will just come across as blindly partisan.

I guess my point is this: if you make dubious arguments (e.g., not qualified), they often detract from the stronger arguments (e.g., too extreme). Attack where you can credibly attack. Don't attack blindly.

there might not be a way to officially remove him from the court, but he could certainly be locked up for an undetermined amount of time, to keep him from casting illegitimate votes on the court. and if he wants to choose to retire from the court while locked up, i suppose i would let him out at that point. #titfortat

You lol'd at the thought he would be elected in the first place.

Einbert,

How do you feel about the confirmation of Gorsuch by Hillary, John Kerry, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Barack Obama? If your extreme feelings and assertions are even close to reality, what were all of those dems possibly thinking confirming such an unqualified, immoral, ass backwards madman?

Just a lot of white male affirmative action from Obama and Clinton I guess?

In response to this question, once Gorsuch is confirmed, I don't see that Trump being forced out of office because of Russia stuff would provide any basis for removing Gorsuch.

SCT appointments have always been held to a higher standard than Circuit court appointments.

Rococo,

Of course, I am just agreeing with your point above that hyperventilating in the extreme as Einbert is doing is not productive.

This seems correct. Even to any standard, the fact he was unanimously confirmed kind of goes against the extreme assertions Einbert is making, which does not help with legitimate attacks.

AG committed perjury and still has a job.

2+2=5 now

learn to deal

That's insane. If the election of 45* is illegitimate, this nomination is illegitimate. That's why it's perfectly reasonable to table this nomination until the FBI investigation is fully completed. Which may be years, but that's what it takes to make a proper lifetime appointment that is non-revokable as such.

People aren't engaging sushy and lestat in debate as much as laughing at their history and calling them on it. It's hurt both of their feelings which is amazing. Such snowflakes.

Really **** anyone who treats Trump like a regular POTUS. There are two ironclad reasons to not support Gorsuch.

1. Garland.

2. **** Trump, the horse he rode in on and every single person who voted for him.

get a grip. gorsuch is a standard federalist society conservative judge like ~half the appeals court judges in the country. he was lazy in a book

It's not the exactly the same situation, but Nixon appointed four SCT justices (including the author of Roe v. Wade, Harry Blackmun!), and as far as I know, no one questioned the legitimacy of the appointments on the basis of Watergate.

So in einbert-world Roe v Wade is an illegitimate decision.

I have Republicans in my family who I love deeply, and even though we may not have agreed on many things, I could always respect that they just looked at things differently. They all voted for Trump. It's really, really tough to talk to them still without that bugging me in the back of my mind. It was never like this with Bush or their virulent opposition to Obama.

I'm not sure that's what Einbert is saying. I assume he is saying that the Russia stuff is a reason to hold up confirmation.

My mistake. He resigned to avoid the inevitable. I fixed my post.

MSNBC reporting that Bannon has been removed from the NSC

Bannon removed from NSC.

Bloomberg story.

I'm definitely lucky. I'm pretty sure no one in my family down to cousins and my wife's cousins, aunts, uncles in-laws voted for Trump, even the few Republicans. That goes for non-work friends too and I don't even have any work friends for sure who voted Trump though there are probably a few.