Superb take! Now how about explaining the part of it that's untrue?

I don't get to whine? Many months before the election I warned him (and those like him) that intolerant name calling is going to set back the too small, but nevertheless, hard fought, recent strides that were being made towards equality. We passed marriage rights, LGBTQ rights, and attention was finally being given to the brutal systemic racism among inner city police forces.

Now we have a racist lunatic for a president ALL OF THAT is trying to be wiped out! I just read today where Jeff Sessions is calling for a review of the recommendations set forth by the DOJ in regards to the Chicago police force. When is it appropriate to whine? Because all of this has me really pissed off! Particularly because those who caused it are too stupid and self mug to see what they've done.

Thankyou sir. You are a gentleman.

The arguments with Sushy are tedious but remember he's probably more or less pegged the popular right-winger take on this, from your Facebook feed up to FNC and AM radio:

1. all options for Trump are bad, so he will do nothing or just flail around and be correct to do it
2. the reason all options are bad and Trump is flailing is really because Obama is such a weak pussy and left the world a mess, thanks Obama

Sushy is not going to be alone on this island. Remember these people don't actually know anything about anything so you're not dealing with people who are honestly surveying the landscape of geopolitics and making a sincere case one way or the other. Events are opportunities to fulfill their reflexive desire to call Democrats pussies, not like events inform their position that Democrats are pussies. They haven't a clue what the **** is going on, most have no idea who Assad is, these are just children's toys with like 5 pre-programmed messages and "DEMOCRATS WEAK CAUSE PROBLEMS" is one of them, and you're not going to get them to say much beyond that. It makes the arguments tedious because we all know this, but just realize that all inputs to the machine produce like a max of 5 and only 5 context-free utterances and this is a mass produced product of surprising popularity despite its limited range of function and utility.

Read maybe four articles about Gorsuch from left leaning sites before and as he was announced as Trump's pick. Based on those, it seems Gorsuch is a very well qualified judge, and nearly universally agreed to be so.

The copied text in the Politico article should not be seen as plagiarism, more like a lazy approach to citing facts. Much of it I wouldn't even call laziness in writing, because I would guess it's important for him to have those facts exactly correct, and he probably doesn't know enough about down syndrome or atresia to phrase them accurately in his own words.

I just don't get why Gorsuch has to be the WOAT judge, a disgrace to the SCOTUS, to somehow justify the fillibuster. The reason is Merrick Garland, and that's good enough.

Trump's pick was a lock to think it's ok to fire someone for having the temerity to not freeze to death when ordered to, so yeah, I agree. The entire and sufficient reason to filibuster is Garland. Well, at least it's a sufficient reason. Garland is the only nomination Dems shouldn't try to stop.

I'm just gonna spell it out in a way I haven't spelled it out before. The name calling was too little, too late.

Do you remember this glorious bull****:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_...ty_and/or_Fear

Dude, I don't know what to say. This post is self-aggrandizing lunacy and I'm not entertaining it. Needless to say you and Fly do not sit on the barricades of civilization and nothing that either Fly said or you said in response produced any meaningful change in the world. So no, I don't think any of your whining is justified. You are obviously stung by Fly but rest assured we do not find much to explain about the world amongst your hurt feelings even though I agree you inserted some meaningful and good wisdom that Democrats ignored local offices to their detriment.

Sorry snowflake. Maybe you need safe space and a comfort animal. But it's true, your posts demonstrate you don't have a ****ing clue about anything and your responses are just reflexive regurgitation of trite talking points. I thought I was rather nice in that I acknowledge there are so many like you, there's a certain comfort in being unremarkble and blending in like that.

Broadway can be not-banned imo. No harm to me.

WSJ reporting that one of the names is flynn (well, duh) and that rice isn't the one who unmasked him but was the one who unmasked someone else.

Yes, there's some intentional deception (NSA can technically be the unmasker, nat sec askee) but I think anyone still thinking trump can't win this fight is way mistaken, they're going for the democrat TKO right now. They know that it doesn't matter as long as the public believes them.

anyone thinking that the donald isn't tired of winning yet is way mistaken. he's out of his league and he has no friends in government. possibly not even in the white house.

at this point more than half the country despises him and his numbers will not get better the longer his presidency goes on as people realize hes a buffoon with no clue.

sure, they'll hold 30-35% of their fanatics believing every words they say and frothing at the mouth over their "YUGE NEWS!!!" deflections.

But I think they lost the public war already, and that's if nothing happens with the russia investigation... GL with that OJ prez

He cant win except in the sense of giving his ~40% base of tards an unwarranted feeling of vindication. Every Democrat and sane conservative knows his wiretap comment was just him making up bull**** like always.

Remember winning in this specific contest isn't really getting Susan Rice tossed in the clink but simply getting everyone to believe the whole affair is banal partisan bickering and to stop paying attention. I have no idea if Trump's distraction tactics will work and I am not going to re-hash 1+ month worth of posts on this, but it's another reason why I am frightful Russia/Trump is the Democrats' poisoned chalice. It's way too easy to turn this into incomprehensible deep state maneuvering voters can't easily internalize. The *probable* facts that might ultimately sink Trump are going to take years to investigate. In the meantime, Trump-friendly media up to and including outlets like the WSJ can just circle the wagons with titillating BREAKING NEWS ALERTS and 11-front page articles on the duplicity of Susan Rice until then, or whoever next week's punching bag is.

They're not going for the TKO, they're trying to turn this into a days long bareknuckle brawl that the audience tires of and goes home once it turns into a boring grappling contest where no one is profusely bleeding and neither side is delivering a knockout blow.

If by self aggrandizing you mean being right, point taken.

If you don't think having a madman in the most powerful position in the world is meaningful change, I got to disagree with you on that. The grief that people like Chez has taken on these forums and everyone in between was over the top. He was put down relentlessly simply for having some dissenting views on things, while still being totally on the side of equality the entire time.

You STILL don't get it. My feelings aren't hurt. Not even close. I couldn't care less about what internet dweebs think of me. I'm immune. But the rhetoric and name calling that echoed here, on MSM, and elsewhere, were very much a part of getting this madman elected and why we're all in this predicament now.

This thread is about the Trump presidency and there's going to be some nefarious and vile things coming up. It's war... People need to be on the same team. Maybe I should go read the opposition thread.

Lestat -- nothing you or Fly said or anyone said to chez or anyone's grief or put downs or any of that **** -- NONE of what has been said and done on 2p2 has anything to do with a madman in the most powerful position in the world. Maybe it's symbolic or emblematic of some phenomenon, I guess, but rest assured I couldn't give a **** less about Fly hurting your feelings and do not concede your hurt feelings resulted in Trump and it's a waste of time to engage with your "see, look what Fly did, this is why we can't have nice things" crusade.

So what I did NOT say or argue: a madman in the most powerful position in the world is not meaningful change

What I DID say: your petty internet squabbles are not world-changing events, get over yourself

Translation: stop talking to me about Fly, no1curr, move along.

Yes I do. I'm going to check out the resistance thread. I still say you guys are doing more harm than good. And now you're doing the same thing with Trump. Pointing out with serious faces all his quirks and faults. Well, no kidding he's a clueless buffoon. But do you really think he's going to be taken down by this Russia fiasco? His inner circle will undoubtedly produce some fall guys and scapegoats, but I'm willing to bet he comes out of it unscathed. I'd love to LOSE that bet.

This is not the way to resist. Just as screaming racist at clueless white guys who know next to nothing about what racism is, is the best way to solve for racism. I just have different views and thoughts about how to actually make progress.

A guy posted some pretty well thought out comments from a friend and you had a short one sentence answer: You're friend is racist as ****! You didn't even bother rebutting some very accurate facts. That's not at all helpful. If you think it's racist, then point out what is racist about it and have a reasoned dialogue about it.

This isn't necessarily about Fly. What I'm trying to do is talk to you about strategy. What works and what doesn't. I agree Trump is merely a symptom of what has existed for quite some time. But if you can't see or fail to acknowledge what got him elected, then you're doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Ok. I'm done with all you guys. Have at it. I'll re-visit this echo chamber over the summer and see where you're at. Hopefully, people doing real work will have crippled this administration by then.

No telling if this is the dude who actually started the Rice thing but Maddaw had this earlier. Lots of people post ****e over the internets but this dude has a long history of bull**** apparently. Why he included his name at the end is weird but Trump supporters tend not to do any back checking so there's that.

Trump didn't get elected because meanies called people who supported trump dumb racists. That doesn't even make a little bit of sense.

How would people who had open minds and considering all the facts be targeted for this meanie name calling to start with? Calling people who still stand by their decision to vote for trump names isn't going to get him re-elected either. This is absolutely the dumbest rhetoric from the China dolls who loved to call others liberals and snowflakes during the campaign. This isn't play time. People should be persecuted for their horrible choice. And with every passing day they don't acknowledge it that should only increase.

But people need to stop with this absolutely nonsensical idea that name calling got trump elected.

Well except for the crazy Gorka defender role he is so adamant about pushing...

It's not the worst thing in the world but this lack of detail, precision and thoroughness marks him as a poor candidate for the Supreme Court. I think those things are paramount for a Supreme Court justice. Things we likely just assume exist in all nominees. So from that stand point it just makes him, isolated from his views, subpar.