This:

There are varying degrees of mental illness, but I'd be willing to bet these pathological tendencies he exhibits would easily be diagnosed in a clinical setting as suffering from multiple mental disorders.

No, and I think the people calling for a more policy-oriented approach have said that the Russia investigation should go on, but it shouldn't be the main focus when Dems are on the soapbox.

Yeah. What I hear a lot from people is "WAAF, no reason to engage the system in any way." And Democrats need to give people real concrete reasons that's not true.

All of those things could go and it still won't sway much if at all. Venezuela still loves Chavez. From an article today.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...nezuela-214973

There's way too much captial spent on what trump voters think. This ego that everyone has thinking they can change the mentality of a trump voter is just plain stupid. They ain't going nowhere unless a great depression hits and even then it's probably dems fault somehow. Message has to go to the swing voters and the ones who didn't vote at all and maybe fox news advertisements in select markets as speaking to them directly appears to be a colossal waste of time.

Too many don't live in a world of reality so facts aren't gonna sway them, as pointed out in the article, has to be similar tactics, too many are still trying the old way or using facts which didn't work before so why the hell would it work now.

Simple narratives, and provide solutions (even if obviously bogus, people still pick that over nothing), ie, don't do what hillary did and maybe this can be fought off, but I still don't know, historically it usually doesn't.

Once? Multiple posts fawning over her looks and outfits. Pretty sure he posted before he was like 64 but I could be off by a Nintendo system.

And woah woah woah. Hold on here. As maybe the most vocal dude saying this, I want to be clear Democrats should not try to win a wonk contest. It ain't about policy. Democrats need vision. Stark contrasts. Not details. A clear moral and practical frame for what they want to do ("rich people should pay more in taxes so we can expand Medicare.")

As a for instance, don't do this:

Provide equity with Kindergarten teachers? Evidenced-based home visiting initiatives? Clinton will build on HIPPY to inspire MIECHV? The **** this lady talking about? Do I get something here?

Oy. Like don't ever do that anymore. I realize I am scouring the bowels of HRC's website to prove the point and she didn't actually sound like this. I just want to be clear policy is decidedly not what I'm talking about. The Democrats of course should have policies and good ones but I am not calling for a policy-based approach. More like a nakedly selfish class warfare approach where the Democrats take their built-in advantages of having ideas that benefits more people than not and actually leverage them to democratic advantage instead of burying them in pointless techno policy jargon mumbo jumbo. I mean just consider the incredible, amazing, utterly dismaying fact that Democrats got out-populisted by a man who lives in a skyscrapper in Manhattan with his name on it. I'm not suggest we all become racist idiots too but Democrats don't have to sound like eggheads, that's a stylistic choice and probably a bad one, much as I like intellectuals.

Solutions like that come about because Democrats in office are only willing to implement right-wing, market-based solutions (e.g. ObamaCare).

So about 46% more feminine than TBAB's girl?

Oh and what ended up being the biggest weakness of ObamaCare? It didn't go far enough. A truly government based plan that had covered everybody properly would have delivered the Democrats long-term popularity and influence. But they had to cobble together the market-based solution ObamaCare which had many holes in it, and Republicans totally used that weakness to blast ObamaCare for years to come. But Democrats aren't telling that story. Instead they're saying "ObamaCare is broken! We want to fix it." What a ****ing muddle message. Admit that we were wrong in the first place, we should have had Universal Health Care, and vote us into office in 2018 and we'll do what's right and pass it once and for all.

Yeah, I know what he meant dude. It was rhetorical.

But the only dunking I got was from the waves, when I got barreled and the door closed on me.

I harped on this sentence and believe me, it's ultimately minor since I doubt anyone ever read it. But it's emblematic:

This is the policy of the Democratic candidate. Not only is it completely meaningless, it's also dripping with Luntzian, Heritage Foundation approved buzzwords of the elite jabbering class: provide equity with investments for educational opportunities, career ladders and professional salaries. Is this a 401k planning meeting with a Charles Schwab advisor or someone trying to win the votes of normal human beings? Well, if you're a modern Democrat, I guess you assume you're doing both at the same time but therein lies the problem.

Guess I'm not clear on the distinction between "policy" and "ideas that will help people." Agree that there has to be well-crafted authentic messaging that's not wonky/too far in the weeds, and Clinton was terrible about doing that, but the Bernie Sanders **** that riled up the base was fundamentally policy-oriented campaigning.

Or this:

Talk about the outcome, not how you get there.

You are certainly right that I disrespect everyone if by everyone you mean voters in general. When you are claiming that no one can tell the Russia story, it's like you are going for some additional achievement or playing in hard mode just to challenge yourself: "Win an election without telling shameless lies." I think it is false that Trump hasn't colored outside the lines of respectable politics, but I concede that you might be right that it's hard to explain to the average voter. The key though is that it just doesn't matter. Telling a narrative or connecting issues to the problems in people's lives is pointless. Just run an ad talking about how a Trump surrogate met with an ARAB and a RUSSIAN and set it to ominous music. Problem solved.

It's without a doubt true that no1curr about principles, but if you're talking about voters, no1curr about anything else either. I mean, Trump told people living in Ohio that all their problems were because of Mexicans. He told people that outsourcing was the problem when he himself had his ****ty clothes produced in Thailand or China. It's nihilist chaos out there.

Your next post does have me pegged. Because of the aforementioned nihilist chaos, the idea of abandoning the neoliberal order that works fine for the brave new world of Bernieism is definitely horrifying. Disillusionment with the system has already brought us Trump and now people want to carry the experiment forward? Find some grounds to impeach the mother****er, then let us all reaffirm our commitment to measured centrism.

http://www.vox.com/2017/4/3/15167916...t-single-payer

Not if that Russian is sexxxy, bear-wrasslin' Vlad Putin. Man, the Fox News crowd loves that guy almost as much as Trump himself.

I think I've said this before, but part of Trump's sales pitch was that he's a super-successful businessbro who goes around making profitable deals with other power players. Talking about how Trump made backroom deals with CEOs and Russian bigshots is almost making his case for him.

I mean, like:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/health...h-care-reform/

This guy is kinda gullible and selfish, but he's persuadable. You can run ads talking about what Dems will do for substance abuse problems, about rust belt jobs. That **** actually works. Sure you can point out that Trump is a self-interested fraud, but include the context of Trump lying about delivering on promises to help the working class.

Notice that Trump got this guy's vote by talking about policy outcomes. It was a scam, of course, but it was bread-and-butter stuff that connects with people.

Yup. I don't really get this line of argument that "Look people, it's only a second rate burglary, not going to take down the president." Bad spy fiction is far more compelling than good healthcare coverage. The drip, drip is making the cheeto dust fly and the rats scurry around every corner. Soon Hannity will be doing segments about Hillary and Russia and Trump will be tweetin about the debates again.

Even if he's not impeached, Trump's now had enough time in the barrel, lyin and blamin and golfin, that even low info voters are turning. As far as winning the policy debate, dems clearly need someone more like Bernie than Hillary, but most policy debate is so disingenuous and at such a superficial level aimed at morons that waiting for more old white evengelicals to kick is probably the best option.

Well looks like the "what wingnut position can we get HastenDan to sign onto" sweepstakes paid out "defending Assad online" lol

The day is not over.

"If anything bad happens at your job that's not your fault, you should just quit" still has a few at bats left.

Trump: Hey universe, are there any hard and fast rules of politics, these days?

Reply: Well for one, maybe try not hiring, you know, Nazis. Other than that, you should be good.

Trump: Hmm, just how 'Nazi' can they be before there are problems?

Broadway Gorka itt

The other great thing about the Russia story is that it can get Trump impeached. Obviously the GOP will never impeach Trump for not being left-wing enough, but they very well might impeach him for being very unpopular and also having compromising ties to Russia.