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03-31-2017 , 07:52 PM
awval999, what is your opinion on this picture:

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Originally Posted by th14
So Much Winning

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/statu...31935653494784
Good or bad for Trump Obama?.

Last edited by Tortuous; 03-31-2017 at 07:58 PM.
03-31-2017 , 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by awval999
Look, I've been in this forum for over a decade. I'll let you know if I feel that I got conned. I really don't care, I don't need to "keep my pride" here. The great thing is I get to vote again each and every year for new government.

Tax reform will be a gamechanger on how I feel about the administration. I'll let you know how I feel.

Consider me the Midwest bellwether. If I'm pissed at how the Trump Presidency is going, you better believe that the other white male, upper-middle income whites, previous Obama voters, in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are feeling the same way. And that's the ****ing Presidency guys.

What do you want to see with tax reform?

You don't actually believe they're gonna do any of that "you can file it on a postcard!" stuff do you?

And I really doubt that is a huge litmus test to the majority of Trump voters. You aren't representative of them if that is your gamechanger IMO.

If Trump supporters are said to even have a "gamechanger" it is likely immigration if it is any domestic policy issue.
03-31-2017 , 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortuous
awval999, what is your opinion on this picture:



Good or bad for Trump Obama?.
Obama's first 100 days was literally at the bottom of the Great Recession. Of course consumer confidence sucked, unemployment was up, house prices were down.

The economy is much better now than it was 8 years ago.

I mean, what else is there to say, Fox is playing to their audience.
03-31-2017 , 08:23 PM
You can't make this stuff up, folks:

"President Donald J. Trump Proclaims April 2017 as National Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...sexual-assault
03-31-2017 , 08:25 PM
Donald getting in on the 4/1 antics?

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03-31-2017 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
What do you want to see with tax reform?

You don't actually believe they're gonna do any of that "you can file it on a postcard!" stuff do you?

And I really doubt that is a huge litmus test to the majority of Trump voters. You aren't representative of them if that is your gamechanger IMO.

If Trump supporters are said to even have a "gamechanger" it is likely immigration if it is any domestic policy issue.
Well, let's start with corporate tax. The corporate tax rate needs to come down. We need to be comparable with other Western countries. Way too much money oversees, needs to be repatriated, whether that's a tax holiday or corporate tax reduction, needs to happen. The money that comes here, whether it's stock buyback, dividends, expansion, will be good for the United States.

Individual income tax? Look, I'm not stupid. When I see the ACA Medicare Investment surtax and 0.9% payroll tax being repealed I know that's for all the rich ****s that make much more than my pharmacist salary. That's why I wanted the AHCA to fail. I understand the rich will get there's. I'm not opposed to that. So I'll call that when it comes. Specifically I would like to see the 25% marginal tax rate reduced, whether that's a rate reduction or a taxable income increase to get to that rate; MFJ marginal rate of 25% at >~$76k. That's a bit much and a bit too soon IMO.
03-31-2017 , 08:40 PM
i think i'd give 2 to 1 on awval not understanding how taxes work
03-31-2017 , 08:42 PM
Depending in what you mean, I'd take that bet. Awval is not ******ed. He's just self-interested with some Midwest tribalism mixed in.
03-31-2017 , 08:46 PM
So the media is totally ignoring Trumps tweets about how the deal next week he is gonna make with China to get rid of the trade deficit and to stop losing jobs is gonna be tough?
03-31-2017 , 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by awval999
Obama's first 100 days was literally at the bottom of the Great Recession. Of course consumer confidence sucked, unemployment was up, house prices were down.

The economy is much better now than it was 8 years ago.

I mean, what else is there to say, Fox is playing to their audience.
Fair play, You're obviously not stupid. So... why the bloody hell do you still support Trump?

It doesn't make sense.
03-31-2017 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Lew can't name a single news organization he deems credible but he is bashing Pulitzer.
The Pulitzer comment was a joke and I specifically named AP & Reuters. Is this a personal attack or not?
03-31-2017 , 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Depending in what you mean, I'd take that bet. Awval is not ******ed. He's just self-interested with some Midwest tribalism mixed in.
I don't think his specific complaint makes sense unless he thinks marginal tax rate = effective tax rate. I thought that was pretty obvious.
03-31-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
please god let Robert Kraft be mixed up criminally in this somehow
lol jets fans.
03-31-2017 , 08:56 PM
I know thats what you thought, and that happens with a lot of Trump guys, but he used the word "marginal" which most of them dont, and his comment makes sense even with the proper definition.

Another thing is I believe awval is semi-rich six figure personal income with investments and ****. It's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to basic knowledge about money.
03-31-2017 , 08:58 PM
I actually think awval is more or less apathetic on the issues. Pretty sure his priorities are

Things that affect his taxes > trolling liberals on 2p2 >>>>> the welfare of other people


So yeah, families are being ripped apart Muslims are being detained at airports and we're causing irreparable harm to our standing abroad, but he still gets to post top kek memes and lol at liberal on 2p2. As long as there isn't a literal nuclear war or something that will actually affect his comfy whitebro lifestyle, why should he give a ****?
03-31-2017 , 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I know thats what you thought, and that happens with a lot of Trump guys, but he used the word "marginal" which most of them dont, and his comment makes sense even with the proper definition.

Another thing is I believe awval is semi-rich six figure personal income with investments and ****. It's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to basic knowledge about money.
lol, he's making a specific complaint that, if he got his way, would lower his effective tax rate like 2%, maybe 3%. You don't think it's much more likely that he thinks he's talking about lowering his effective tax rate 5%?

and fwiw, I know plenty of people that make six figures and have investments and think they pay their marginal tax rate on all of their taxable income. I wouldn't necessarily call these people ******ed either.
03-31-2017 , 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by awval999
Look, I've been in this forum for over a decade. I'll let you know if I feel that I got conned. I really don't care, I don't need to "keep my pride" here. The great thing is I get to vote again each and every year for new government.

Tax reform will be a gamechanger on how I feel about the administration. I'll let you know how I feel.

Consider me the Midwest bellwether. If I'm pissed at how the Trump Presidency is going, you better believe that the other white male, upper-middle income whites, previous Obama voters, in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are feeling the same way. And that's the ****ing Presidency guys.
Well of course. After all, it is your country.
03-31-2017 , 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortuous
Fair play, You're obviously not stupid. So... why the bloody hell do you still support Trump?

It doesn't make sense.
Only two options. He is stupid in that he simply does not understand macro economics or he is a racist and xenophobe.

These are the only two reasons someone would be supporting trump.
03-31-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
He only owns 1/62,984,825th of it so he's basically innocent.
Not to be that guy, but this math would be off because of electoral college. Would depend on where awal lives. God knows we can't forget about the sweet, sweet electoral college.
03-31-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
He has done that before. How can he be so oblivious he does this more than once. He has to be suffering from dementia.
I think he has hearing loss. But he's too insecure to admit it. He's standing behind Pence and looks like he can't hear him. Then he takes over the conversation and walks out.
03-31-2017 , 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by awval999
Well, let's start with corporate tax. The corporate tax rate needs to come down. We need to be comparable with other Western countries. Way too much money oversees, needs to be repatriated, whether that's a tax holiday or corporate tax reduction, needs to happen. The money that comes here, whether it's stock buyback, dividends, expansion, will be good for the United States.

Individual income tax? Look, I'm not stupid. When I see the ACA Medicare Investment surtax and 0.9% payroll tax being repealed I know that's for all the rich ****s that make much more than my pharmacist salary. That's why I wanted the AHCA to fail. I understand the rich will get there's. I'm not opposed to that. So I'll call that when it comes. Specifically I would like to see the 25% marginal tax rate reduced, whether that's a rate reduction or a taxable income increase to get to that rate; MFJ marginal rate of 25% at >~$76k. That's a bit much and a bit too soon IMO.

Oh, you said tax reform.

What you are referring to in this post is pretty much just tax cuts besides the repatriation stuff. Which even then, is just a cut.

I thought you meant stuff like the border adjusted tax or eliminating interest deduction for businesses or some of the other ideas being thrown around.

There hasn't been actual tax reform since 1986 and I'm no expert but I am guessing the tax code is a lot more complex to unravel now than it was then.

Last edited by Onlydo2days; 03-31-2017 at 09:45 PM.
03-31-2017 , 09:39 PM
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner Still Benefiting From Business Empire, Filings Show
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, President Trump’s daughter and son-in-law, will remain the beneficiaries of a sprawling real estate and investment business still worth as much as $741 million, despite their new government responsibilities, according to ethics filings released by the White House Friday night.

Ms. Trump will also maintain a stake in the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. The hotel, just down the street from the White House, has drawn protests from ethics experts who worry that foreign governments or special interests could stay there in order to curry favor with the administration.

It is unclear how Ms. Trump would earn income from that stake. Mr. Kushner’s financial disclosures said that Ms. Trump earned between $1 million and $5 million from the hotel between January 2016 and March 2017, and put the value of her stake at between $5 million and $25 million.
she has a big financial conflict of interest AND it's nepotism but... she's just the smartest best person for the job even though she has zero experience in the white house or any level of government
03-31-2017 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Look, I've been in this forum for over a decade. I'll let you know if I feel that I got conned. I really don't care, I don't need to "keep my pride" here. The great thing is I get to vote again each and every year for new government.

Tax reform will be a gamechanger on how I feel about the administration. I'll let you know how I feel.

Consider me the Midwest bellwether. If I'm pissed at how the Trump Presidency is going, you better believe that the other white male, upper-middle income whites, previous Obama voters, in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are feeling the same way. And that's the ****ing Presidency guys.
Since you are feeling so charitable about how you feel, please address what I said earlier today. Post number 23302.

What would you do if Trump grabbed a female family member by the pussy?
03-31-2017 , 09:44 PM
clinton WATTS on rachel maddow rn
03-31-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Bingo

      
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