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03-30-2017 , 11:58 PM

#23176

einbert

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Gerrymandering though. His 30% base represents like 40% of the House of Representatives. Most of the Republican House members are much more worried about a primary challenge than a challenge from the left.

03-31-2017 , 12:02 AM

#23177

OmgGlutten!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Yeah here's the thing just like with the Bridgegate underlings if you have real juice to flip you don't go to the media, but if you are innocent you don't put out a statement begging for immunity because you "have a story to tell".

What that public statement means is that Flynn doesn't want to go down but doesn't have the negotiating position to get immunity(either because the authorities already have what Flynn has or Flynn doesn't have anything worth immunity)

What if the goal is to see how others react?

03-31-2017 , 12:21 AM

#23178

RV Life

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Originally Posted by simplicitus

Someone mentioned this, but it's pretty hilarious.

This one comment is amazing.

03-31-2017 , 12:31 AM

#23179

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Originally Posted by RV Life

This one comment is amazing.

That's what he was trying to do when he torpedoed Hillary.

03-31-2017 , 12:38 AM

#23180

einbert

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Originally Posted by campfirewest

That's what he was trying to do when he torpedoed Hillary.

I know right? Democracy and integrity of elections are so overrated. Who needs all that high-falutin' stuff. What we really need is members of the executive branch to torpedo political candidates they don't like, right?

03-31-2017 , 12:38 AM

#23181

RV Life

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Originally Posted by campfirewest

That's what he was trying to do when he torpedoed Hillary.

The context suggests they know each other.

03-31-2017 , 12:50 AM

#23182

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.1b633b0c35f5

People at state department being told to not even look at mr. tillerson and mr. tillerson needs his alone time, can't be bothered with this secretary of state work thing or things like meeting with people.

Who did trump hire that isn't the WOAT? Haley? That's probably only b/c you couldn't possibly do worse than Bolton.

03-31-2017 , 12:55 AM

#23183

AllTheCheese

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Who did trump hire that isn't the WOAT? Haley? That's probably only b/c you couldn't possibly do worse than Bolton.

Maybe not WOAT, but she sucks too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/world/nikki-haley-un-human-rights-council-corrupt.html

Quote:

She cited what she called a “ridiculously biased report attacking Israel,” and criticized the Security Council for holding monthly meetings about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. (The council also discusses Yemen every month and Syria three times a month.)

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Perhaps the most uncomfortable moment of Ms. Haley’s speech on Wednesday came when she tried to defend Mr. Trump’s travel ban. She insisted that it was not meant to exclude Muslims, but to strengthen vetting procedures for asylum seekers. At one point, she cited this month’s London terrorist attack as a justification for the travel ban. The audience murmured audibly; the London assailant was a native-born Briton.

03-31-2017 , 01:18 AM

#23184

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Here's the thing. Even if Haley were reasonable (she's really not that reasonable) as a prime member of the Trump administration she's not allowed to have her own opinions. Her opinions belong to Viacom/Comcast/TimeWarner/Pfeizer. And Steve Bannon. That's how it works with a God-Emperor.

03-31-2017 , 01:42 AM

#23185

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When I checked wiki for which Americans had been prosecuted for treason, all but one of the cases were people cooperating with nations we were at war with or people waging armed insurrection. The one exception was not cooperating with a country we don't like very much.

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03-31-2017 , 01:48 AM

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heard a tidbit from a guy on CNN saying Nunes and Trump are big believers in all the deep state talk

03-31-2017 , 02:01 AM

#23187

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

heard a tidbit from a guy on CNN saying Nunes and Trump are big believers in all the deep state talk

03-31-2017 , 02:04 AM

#23188

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“Tell them is fake news, work of moose and squirrel.”

03-31-2017 , 02:34 AM

#23189

Lilu7

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Pence surely pardons Trump tho rite? re: the Orange Fuhrer & teh jailz

03-31-2017 , 02:47 AM

#23190

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Over/under on the number of people Trump takes down along the way? He's the absolute worst influence on those around him.

03-31-2017 , 03:25 AM

#23191

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Originally Posted by Our House

Over/under on the number of people Trump takes down along the way? He's the absolute worst influence on those around him.

A month ago I would have said 30. Now it's 40. Wouldn't be shocked if its 100+

03-31-2017 , 03:31 AM

#23192

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03-31-2017 , 03:34 AM

#23193

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

My God Ben Garrison gets under my skin. He's angling to be the chief propagandist in the new Trump police state.

HOL UP

Octopodesta is holding a pentagram and a piece of pizza. That's incredible.

03-31-2017 , 03:40 AM

#23194

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Originally Posted by RV Life

A month ago I would have said 30. Now it's 40. Wouldn't be shocked if its 100+

And I wasn't really thinking about just legal troubles when I wrote that post. Forget about the seemingly bad actors like Manafort, Flynn, Stone, etc., but just think of all the people who are in way over their heads trying to untwist Trump's knots; those in the House or Senate or WH. Lots of careers and reputations at stake here too.

03-31-2017 , 04:07 AM

#23195

Fatal Checkraise

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Uh, this has probably been asked before, but should Trump step down, does Pence pick a new cabinet or does he keep the old one?

Edit: Just googled how Ford did it, and he kept most of them.

Last edited by Fatal Checkraise; 03-31-2017 at 04:09 AM. Reason: Just googled how Ford did it, and he kept most of them.

03-31-2017 , 05:18 AM

#23196

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Originally Posted by Fatal Checkraise

Uh, this has probably been asked before, but should Trump step down, does Pence pick a new cabinet or does he keep the old one?

Edit: Just googled how Ford did it, and he kept most of them.

The cabinet sits at the pleasure of the president. So I suspect he would keep some and get rid of others. I would think Tillerson would be replaced by an experienced diplomat and several other changes would be made to beef up the state department. Of course, non-cabinet people like Bannon, Kushner, Stephen Miller and Ivanka would be gone. I suspect Priebus and Spicer could stay.

03-31-2017 , 05:19 AM

#23197

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'I like nepotism'

03-31-2017 , 05:20 AM

#23198

BlueWillow

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This Russia saga reminds me of the opening monologue to layer cake when Daniel Craig says - "only the very stupid think the police are stupid'.

I wonder if at any point they thought - hang on a second lads, is this a bad idea?

Maybe the stories end the same way - Jared knives Don on the white house steps after he finds out Don has been banging Ivanka.

Cue Ordinary World by Duran Duran.

03-31-2017 , 05:38 AM

#23199

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yeSpiff

'I like nepotism'

The whole way Trump talks and articulates seems way different in this video.

LOL Yanklandia, you actually elected someone senile/dementia and that was seen as feature not a bug.