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03-30-2017 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Watts almost certainly has a terminal illness if he's willing to say these things. After all, assassination is a way cooler way to die than cancer.
all this talk of assassination on the 36th anniversary of the Reagan assassination attempt.
03-30-2017 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I refuse to get excited about any of this.
This
03-30-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
all this talk of assassination after a number of potential sources for the report on Trump/Russia have turned up dead.
FTFY
03-30-2017 , 08:38 PM
Nothing to hide I am sure. All of this is normal to fight fake news.
03-30-2017 , 08:45 PM
Comey definitely has a sense of humor. LOL.




Heh, he locked his account. I can't post the one tweet he put up.

It's a meme of Ron Burgundy saying "Actually I'm not even mad. That's amazing."
03-30-2017 , 08:46 PM
Still not getting my popcorn ready. Not exactly sure what crime Flynn is requesting immunity from.
03-30-2017 , 08:47 PM
Shot and chaser from Fox expert. [Not "Judge" Napolitano]



https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/847608312505839616

lol BillO.
03-30-2017 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
So, Cambridge Analytica can surely tell you that a 25 y/o unmarried or "it's complicated" woman in NE Ohio who likes basset hounds and gin rummy only has a 48% chance to vote (assuming they can get real names and cross-reference them to voting rolls) and a 35% chance to support Trump (assuming they can get that % via some other demographic data, like exit polls, which aren't accurate at such a granular level. They can't get who you voted for from the state or any other source).

So, great, maybe you know where the non-voters are who are likely to support your candidate, but actually getting them to vote or persuading others to support your candidate is the same old problem that campaign managers/workers/supporters have faced for the last 100-200 years.

There is nothing that I can tell that gives them a significant edge other than puffery and confusing clients and journalists. This is just standard silicon valley-type hype that hopes to explain the "conspiratorial" election of Trump.
I agree that CA's ability to sway the election was much lower than some are making it out to be (in part because they didn't actually do some of the stuff they said they could) but here's how this would actually work:

- Take the voter file and cross-reference against a few thousand household-level data providers
- Look for things like registered party, propensity to vote, which primaries they vote in, etc
- Build correlations around the other data and use that to build FB interest and demographic targeting that can be focused down to the 5-digit zip
- Do a ****ton of testing around various kinds of messaging and basically live in the Facebook Insights tool that lets you break performance down by all kinds of variables

The other interesting thing would be how they used email lists to build custom audiences and lookalike audiences for marketing. I assume (and hope) the campaigns have all kinds of info on each email address, what emails they open, what they do on the site, etc, and can come up with strategies for advertising different messages to them on other platforms.
03-30-2017 , 08:48 PM
Flynn seeking immunity only so that he is not unfairly swept up in the witch hunt.


https://twitter.com/robkelner/status/847590575352270850

Spoiler:
Kappa
03-30-2017 , 08:50 PM
03-30-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by watevs
Sourced from 'officials with knowledge of the matter' but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-fl...ity-1490912959

Flynn offers to testify in exchange for Immunity
told ya these rats wouldn't take the fall for him
03-30-2017 , 08:55 PM
Odds the known liar just lies about a bunch more stuff?
03-30-2017 , 08:56 PM
Checked the books today, Trump being impeached went from 4-1 to 3-1

Does Flynn actually have something or is he just covering his tracks? I find it hard to believe Donald could conceal working with Russia so well if he did.
03-30-2017 , 08:56 PM
Chris Hayes reporting that there's no way the committee will give him immunity, so the immunity thing doesn't mean Flynn will testify, at least not at this point.
03-30-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Odds the known liar just lies about a bunch more stuff?
Why would he lie if he's offered immunity? If he's caught lying a 2nd time, he'll never see the sun again.
03-30-2017 , 08:57 PM
Ollie North got congressional immunity, it did not mean that he flipped just that his lawyers told him to insist on immunity before talking. Flynn is same situation.
03-30-2017 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Odds the known liar just lies about a bunch more stuff?
Immunity deals as I understand them (don't practice criminal) are often very strict. If you are caught in a single misrepresentation, the deal is pulled and what you've testified to can be used against you, along with a bonus perjury charge and a sentencing enhancement and disfavor from the judge. And in a high-profile case everything will be double-checked. It's not something to mess around with.
03-30-2017 , 09:01 PM
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Ronnie Gardocki: [He's been told of Vic's immunity agreement and is being taken to jail] You told them... all of it?
Vic Mackey: Ronnie...
Ronnie Gardocki: You made a deal for yourself and you're sending me to prison?
Vic Mackey: I'm sorry. My family, I... I... I thought Corrine...
Ronnie Gardocki: You're goddamned SORRY?
Holland Wagenbach: Process him!
Officer Danielle "Danny" Sofer: Take him in!
Vic Mackey: I didn't think I had a choice!
Ronnie Gardocki: [as he's being hauled away by the police] Well, what about MY goddamn choice? Where was my goddamn choice? I was going to run! We were going to run together! God DAMN IT! What about the team? What about protecting the goddamn team?
Claudette Wyms: [to Mackey, dismissively] You can go now.
03-30-2017 , 09:02 PM
bigger news outlets also confirming flynn immunity story
03-30-2017 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
Still not getting my popcorn ready. Not exactly sure what crime Flynn is requesting immunity from.
Lying to the FBI, being a foreign agent without registering both come to mind

Also that ian samuel guy is correct, he'd be stupid to testify at all without immunity even if completely innocent
03-30-2017 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
bigger news outlets also confirming flynn immunity story
Maddow will have the WSJ reporter who broke that story on tonight
03-30-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Shield GOAT
03-30-2017 , 09:06 PM
Yeah here's the thing just like with the Bridgegate underlings if you have real juice to flip you don't go to the media, but if you are innocent you don't put out a statement begging for immunity because you "have a story to tell".

What that public statement means is that Flynn doesn't want to go down but doesn't have the negotiating position to get immunity(either because the authorities already have what Flynn has or Flynn doesn't have anything worth immunity)
03-30-2017 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Why would he lie if he's offered immunity? If he's caught lying a 2nd time, he'll never see the sun again.
Presidential pardon?
03-30-2017 , 09:10 PM
in before fox news makes some big story about comey's twitter

      
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