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03-28-2017 , 06:57 PM

#22526

dlk9s

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Hmm...I thought it was going to end with her wife crawling across the back of the convertible.

Last edited by dlk9s; 03-28-2017 at 06:58 PM. Reason: Too soon?

03-28-2017 , 06:58 PM

#22527

Onlydo2days

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Is there some procedural reason why not?

In my hypothetical, Trump doesn't need the Freedom Caucus or for that matter most of the Republicans. He goes the opposite way, which is what the populist wing wants, single payer (for white people). Then he picks up most of the Dems and the moderate Republicans. In fact, if Trump can get enough Dems that it becomes clear that the bill will pass, all the rest of the non Tea Party guys will come along because it's just better politics.

The populist wing doesn't include doing stuff that liberals have been saying we need for 50 years.

Pushing single payer would obviously be a disaster for Trump.

MAYBE if he put real time and effort into selling it, but c'mon, that isn't going to happen.

03-28-2017 , 07:00 PM

#22528

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Originally Posted by True North

Hastert Rule. Not really a rule, but the GOP swears by it. Thou shalt not bring forward a bill without majority majority support.

I thought the Hastert rule was to report bribery payments for diddling kids on your taxes?

03-28-2017 , 07:14 PM

#22529

ScreaminAsian

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they were blackmail payments i'm sure it wasn't his idea

also,

03-28-2017 , 07:17 PM

#22530

Namath12

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so Louie Anderson

03-28-2017 , 07:26 PM

#22531

suzzer99

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03-28-2017 , 07:33 PM

#22532

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/846820463900852231

03-28-2017 , 07:40 PM

#22533

Huehuecoyotl

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https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/846868632978280448

03-28-2017 , 07:54 PM

#22534

Our House

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ROFL

03-28-2017 , 07:55 PM

#22535

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Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC).

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/846864998316101633

If you didn't see Nunes today, here's his latest refusal to recuse:

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/statu...26423423766529

And Trey Gowdy has a take too. The man certainly has his experience with partisan investigations.

https://twitter.com/weeklystandard/s...61031245697025

03-28-2017 , 07:59 PM

#22536

AllTheCheese

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Jesus would have really wanted to know about all the ILLEGAL LEAKS!!!!1111

03-28-2017 , 08:07 PM

#22537

Namath12

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Open, blatant corruption and no one is going to do a goddamn ****ing thing about it

And people from other countries legit cannot figure out why 50% turnout on election day is high for us.

03-28-2017 , 08:15 PM

#22538

Namath12

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03-28-2017 , 08:19 PM

#22539

13ball

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The only reason Dems want to see them is because there's something bad in them. Typical partisans.

03-28-2017 , 08:21 PM

#22540

ScreaminAsian

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03-28-2017 , 08:33 PM

#22541

RV Life

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Can't offer protection by law if "they" don't exist.

03-28-2017 , 08:41 PM

#22542

einbert

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So even Trump has to know by now that he can't bring coal mining back. What is his endgame here? In three years when coal mining is deader than ever, what's his plan?

03-28-2017 , 08:43 PM

#22543

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Booked if you agree to post up. If you win I'll happily ship you the moniez in 2117

I'll escrow, my great grand kids will execute the money transfer to winner.

03-28-2017 , 08:49 PM

#22544

ScreaminAsian

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nepotism is generally frowned upon in the usa, but, my god, ivanka and jared are crushing it so hard they've removed all doubt as to their incredible -almost supernatural- abilities.

03-28-2017 , 08:55 PM

#22545

kerowo

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Cite?

03-28-2017 , 08:58 PM

#22546

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Twitter is used by a vanishingly small number of Americans, particularly to talk about politics. But the conversation that takes place there, because so many powerful and influential people use it, is important in shaping the conversation that takes place about politics in other mediums. And the figures driving the conversation on Slavghazi, at least for the true believers, are people like Mensch and Schindler, along with other oddballs like the amphetamine-powered Eric Garland and ever-more Cassandra-like Sarah Kendzior, who are encouraged and endorsed by actual, influential people in the media and politics.

Democratic partisans are being taken in by these people for a simple reason. They want a silver bullet that takes out Trump and undoes the 2016 election, just like conservatives thought the birth certificate would take out Obama and undo the 2008 election. Some — not many, but a few — even think Clinton will somehow be appointed to the presidency if the election is declared “illegitimate,” or if it is redone, or that both Trump and Pence and maybe Paul Ryan and Rex Tillerson and Orrin Hatch, all in the line of succession, will somehow be found complicit and removed too. They’re all traitors, aren’t they?

Could Trump get impeached, for this or anything else? Sure. That’s one way this scandal could unfold. Another is that some politically damaging stuff is found, but not enough, and that the Russia furor slows down and we’re left with Trump to fill out his first term and, it is still possible, a second one. In that case, the battle is for seats in Congress, and it’s not clear to me that this is a significant issue for most voters.

What’s strangest of all to me is that the Trump family is actively getting rich off the presidency every second he is in office. The White House is a rat’s nest of conflict of interest problems, and no one’s even really trying to hide it. Voters hate petty personal corruption and greed that hurts the little guy. And yet that issue, which has been skillfully and consistently reported, has gotten about a twentieth of the attention.

I do disagree a bit. Personal corruption is seen as bad, but sometimes it's only seen as bad when the person doing it is doing it AND not looking out for <insert person giving the opinion>. Tammany Hall ran for a while with the support of a lot of people even while being pitted against the law and reformists because people thought Tammany Hall was for them.

Partisanship is a hell of a drug and so is the "did I do that?" Trump graft while trying to sell that he's looking out for the little guy.

https://medium.com/@cd_hooks/all-the...sch-382e3e577c

03-28-2017 , 08:59 PM

#22547

otatop

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He Presidented, everybody!

03-28-2017 , 09:01 PM

#22548

Huehuecoyotl

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Originally Posted by Klingbard

Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC).

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/846864998316101633

If you didn't see Nunes today, here's his latest refusal to recuse:

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/statu...26423423766529

And Trey Gowdy has a take too. The man certainly has his experience with partisan investigations.

https://twitter.com/weeklystandard/s...61031245697025

100% sure either Trump himself or people who saw how angry Trump got when Sessions recused himself have given the word that unless a body shows up with Nunez's name on it, to not recuse himself.

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03-28-2017 , 09:07 PM

#22549

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The president and his companies have been linked to at least 10 wealthy former Soviet businessmen with alleged ties to criminal organizations or money laundering.

Among them:

• A member of the firm that developed the Trump SoHo Hotel in New York is a twice-convicted felon who spent a year in prison for stabbing a man and later scouted for Trump investments in Russia.

• An investor in the SoHo project was accused by Belgian authorities in 2011 in a $55 million money-laundering scheme.

• Three owners of Trump condos in Florida and Manhattan were accused in federal indictments of belonging to a Russian-American organized crime group and working for a major international crime boss based in Russia.

• A former mayor from Kazakhstan was accused in a federal lawsuit filed in Los Angeles in 2014 of hiding millions of dollars looted from his city, some of which was spent on three Trump SoHo units.

• A Ukrainian owner of two Trump condos in Florida was indicted in a money-laundering scheme involving a former prime minister of Ukraine.

Trump's Russian connections are of heightened interest because of an FBI investigation into possible collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russian operatives to interfere in last fall's election. What’s more, Trump and his companies have had business dealings with Russians that go back decades, raising questions about whether his policies would be influenced by business considerations.

Trump told reporters in February: "I have no dealings with Russia. I have no deals that could happen in Russia, because we’ve stayed away. And I have no loans with Russia. I have no loans with Russia at all."

Yet in 2013, after Trump addressed potential investors in Moscow, he bragged to Real Estate Weekly about his access to Russia's rich and powerful. “I have a great relationship with many Russians, and almost all of the oligarchs were in the room,” Trump said, referring to Russians who made fortunes when former Soviet state enterprises were sold to private investors.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...rime/98321252/