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01-28-2017 , 06:52 PM

#2226

DTD

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Well, I can't say I'm proud to be British (Brexit and all) but I feel less disgusted about it than I did a few months ago and I'd feel worse being a Yank.

Seriously, I feel massive sympathy for the decent people in the US having to put up with this.

01-28-2017 , 06:52 PM

#2227

Melkerson

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Originally Posted by will1530

Green card holders are apparently being let back in under a special waiver to the executive order.

If true, at least that's something. I can't imagine the courts would have allowed that to stand very long had they tried to enforce it. But who the **** knows anymore?

01-28-2017 , 06:53 PM

#2228

Huehuecoyotl

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

If true, at least that's something. I can't imagine the courts would have allowed that to stand very long had they tried to enforce it. But who the **** knows anymore?

It's done on a case by case basis. It's completely arbitrary and against the rule of law.

01-28-2017 , 06:53 PM

#2229

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Originally Posted by DTD

His base don't care about evidence. I'm not sure how much you have sifted about Trump Facebook groups etc, but it really gives a feel that it will take something seismic to make them even question their new hero. Heck, when asked to describe him I've seen video clips of people praising his adherence to family values, his honesty, that he respects people who stand up to him and his selflessness. Honestly, I can't imagine how this will end.

why would his supporters start to question him? he is doing what he said would do.

01-28-2017 , 06:54 PM

#2230

DTD

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This is the interview when he is asked about God and ends up talking about his deals?

01-28-2017 , 06:54 PM

#2231

Huehuecoyotl

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This is certainly true. It doesn't have anything to do with actual anti terrorism practices

01-28-2017 , 06:55 PM

#2232

goofyballer

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I skipped over awval's wordbomb first time through but spotted this when it was quoted:

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Originally Posted by awval999

I can't believe I have to go through these one by one to talk you off your ledge.

Divestment

Trump has divested his individually owned stocks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...06c_story.html

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Literally Google "Name" divestment and "Name" financial disclosures. It's all there. In the Cyber. I'm sorry you live in your bubble and don't have access to all these websites in the Cyber.

TRUMP HAS NOT DIVESTED HIS OWN ****ING BUSINESS. The nerve of this weepy Trump voter to talk down to others while failing on the single most important aspect of divestment, Jesus H. Christ.

While you're googling "Name" divestment maybe you would have seen articles with titles like TRUMP SAYS WON'T DIVEST FROM HIS BUSINESS WHILE PRESIDENT for ****'s sake

01-28-2017 , 06:57 PM

#2233

DTD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullycider

why would his supporters start to question him? he is doing what he said would do.

Pretty sure I'm being trolled, but most of his supporters don't actually know a whole lot about him beyond a few soundbites. If they find out more, and it's bad, then they can question it. If they realised that they were wrong, then they can question it. Many of them start talking about Hillary when challenged about Trump, and that says it all.

01-28-2017 , 06:59 PM

#2234

GBV

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Originally Posted by DTD

I don't think he's trolling you, just stating a fact...Trump is bad...his supporters are worse. They'd love him to go full on fascist.

01-28-2017 , 07:04 PM

#2235

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Originally Posted by champstark

McConnell said no to that this week. AFAIK it's difficult to change the rules at any point after the beginning of the Congressional session.

If this is the case, then Trump can't possibly nominate Pryor, given that they're 100% lock to filibuster him. He likely wouldn't get confirmed, anyway; not that hard to find 3 R's to go against such an extremist. Collins, R, Maine, surely would.

01-28-2017 , 07:04 PM

#2236

eurodp

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I think he is just right. Most of us thought he was just saying that to his idiot base and he couldn't/wouldn't actually go through with something so utterly and comprehensively stupid. Here we are tho

01-28-2017 , 07:06 PM

#2237

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Heartwarming stories of refugees in Canada, the leader of the free world

https://www.thestar.com/news/insight...ian-dream.html

Silver lining: it's pretty cool having the mantle passed to us, I hope we're ready for primetime.

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Originally Posted by Bullycider

great chance here for Canada to gain more diversity which will make the stronger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

I wonder if Canada will take just regular Americans fleeing ******ation? I'm not being persecuted yet but I can sense it's coming.

I hope we can vet innocent Americans fleeing Trumpism, from Trump voters trying to sneak away from their mess.

01-28-2017 , 07:14 PM

#2238

Jbrochu

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Does it help if my Granddaddy came down to the states from Quebec?

01-28-2017 , 07:21 PM

#2239

master3004

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Originally Posted by Parlay Slow

One reason I believe the filibuster will remain is that it overwhelmingly favors the donor class. The filibuster makes major reform difficult.

This. If the reps burn the filibuster and then crash and burn in 2020 then their policies are royally ****ed

01-28-2017 , 07:23 PM

#2240

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Originally Posted by awval999

I don't have to do anything.

Be ready to die trying though.

Imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever.

01-28-2017 , 07:26 PM

#2241

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Canada might not be far enough away.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-dep...de-canada/8323

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On February 14th [2008], Canada and the US signed an agreement which allows for the deployment of US troops inside Canada.

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Territorial control over Canada is part of Washington’s geopolitical and military agenda as formulated in April 2002 by Donald Rumsfeld. “Binational integration” of military command structures was also contemplated alongside a major revamping in the areas of immigration, law enforcement and intelligence.

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The Toronto Star accepted to publish an abridged version of my November 2004 text as an oped. The article explained that Ottawa had been:

“quietly negotiating [since April 2002] a far-reaching military cooperation agreement, which allows the US Military to cross the border and deploy troops anywhere in Canada, in our provinces, as well station American warships in Canadian territorial waters. This redesign of Canada’s defense system is being discussed behind closed doors, not in Canada, but at the Peterson Air Force base in Colorado, at the headquarters of US Northern Command (NORTHCOM).”

All your base are belong to Trump.

01-28-2017 , 07:29 PM

#2242

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullycider

great chance here for Canada to gain more diversity which will make the stronger

Jesus Christ he troll boxed into saying some true, it's a miracle!

01-28-2017 , 07:29 PM

#2243

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Zero value in debating awval unless the topic is the appropriate size for eyeholes in bedsheets.

01-28-2017 , 07:31 PM

#2244

Max Cut

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"The hurt is what they want"

Wall: hurt mexicans/latinx
Chicago: hurt blacks
Immigration ban: hurt Muslims

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01-28-2017 , 07:32 PM

#2245

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I don't think globalresearch.ca has much credibility. The guy is a conspiracy theorist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky

01-28-2017 , 07:40 PM

#2246

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

I don't think globalresearch.ca has much credibility. The guy is a conspiracy theorist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky

Probably not. I don't remember what I googled to get there, but Canada still isn't far enough and next door to a fascist country could be worse than inside it.

As for pride or not, well, I'm part of the resistance, the true American patriots!

01-28-2017 , 07:40 PM

#2247

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Awval is the worst kind of trump supporter. You can tell he is moderately intelligent so should know better so the only possible excuse for him is pure unabashed racism and hate.

Just a huge, dishonest coward and phony, much like Inso0 (but likely smarter). Pretends to act like a decent human being but isn't. Otherwise he'd actually care when things are gong badly but instead it's "Huh? In off to Barbados, my house probably won't be rubble when I come back, how bad could it be?" He was all ready to go after Trump if he didn't divest before taking office but that came and went without a peep; now everything is fine because it's not literally a Nazi takeover (which would also be fine btw).. I look forward to him claiming he voted for Clinton in 4-8 years.