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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-28-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Is this the same source that claims all 8 SCOTUS judges want to block Gorsuch from the bench?
A fine example of cutting someone some slack if I ever saw one.
03-28-2017 , 12:28 PM


https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/statu...97693430108161

Lol

Oh yeah last time Dow fell nine consecutive days Carter was president. Guess the market run up drooling for tax cuts is over.
03-28-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show is on a roll. Maddow has had the most-watched cable news show in the younger demo for the third week in a row. The last time Maddow won three weeks in a row in the A25-54 demo were the weeks of Dec. 17, 25 and 31, 2012.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/rache...viewers/324564

thanks don.
Interestingly, despite the Dvault-led partial-consensus here, Maddow has been going hard to the paint on Russia Woodward and Bernstein style. She's bird-dogging it, including the relationship between Russian banks/FSB and Putin and Trump. I don't see here giving up, 60-80% of most shows lately have been on Russia. Same chairman Nunes has canceled all hearing and the intel committee's regular weekly hearing. I'm 60% sure the piss tapes are real at this point. Regardless of the stupidity of the house committee, the FBI (the intel part, not the NY/Giuliani field office) gonna be following the Russian trail methodically.

Also, Wilbur Ross being vice chair of Cypress bank with a Russian oligarch is shady as hell. I knew a decade ago that Cypress was a favorite money laundering spot for Russians, online gambling.
03-28-2017 , 12:37 PM
Yeah I mean if there's one thing the Dems don't want it's to get to the bottom of this mess.

These guys aren't even good at lying anymore.
03-28-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Interestingly, despite the Dvault-led partial-consensus here, Maddow has been going hard to the paint on Russia Woodward and Bernstein style. She's bird-dogging it, including the relationship between Russian banks/FSB and Putin and Trump. I don't see here giving up, 60-80% of most shows lately have been on Russia. Same chairman Nunes has canceled all hearing and the intel committee's regular weekly hearing. I'm 60% sure the piss tapes are real at this point. Regardless of the stupidity of the house committee, the FBI (the intel part, not the NY/Giuliani field office) gonna be following the Russian trail methodically.

Also, Wilbur Ross being vice chair of Cypress bank with a Russian oligarch is shady as hell. I knew a decade ago that Cypress was a favorite money laundering spot for Russians, online gambling.
I click between her and CNN. I do Enjoy her show as it to me is a more mature presentation of journalism then jeff lord on cnn doing verbal gymnastics to defend every move trump makes. I am in strong disagreement with the dvaut side of the argument which is probably why her show is my favorite with anderson cooper coming in 2nd.

The thing the proves his guilt to me besides all the obvious connecting dots is simply his behavior. He instinctively acts like someone who is guilty and backed in to a corner, its blatant at this point to me.
03-28-2017 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Yeah still not clear why some want to sweep all this under the rug because they can't see a clear narritive as things get worse by the day.
The "no narrative" talk is annoying. Maybe there isn't a narrative the politicians can spout and the media can repeat, but "The President got elected with help from Putin and got paid to ease sanctions" is a hell of a story. It may not be true. It may not be provable even if it is true. But it's a story everyone is interested in. It's got everything: money, spies, murder, and pee-pee.
03-28-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Yeah I mean if there's one thing the Dems don't want it's to get to the bottom of this mess.

These guys aren't even good at lying anymore.
Nunes said that without actually realizing that he omitted that they are basically doing 2 different investigations. He says "of course the dems dont want me to be here, i get to the bottom of ****" not realizing that he is saying that he is investigating the wire taps and not the trump russia connection.
03-28-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Yeah I mean if there's one thing the Dems don't want it's to get to the bottom of this mess.

These guys aren't even good at lying anymore.
I feel like they're rubbing it in our faces. Nunes isn't even trying to make this look like a real investigation any more. That's something authoritarian govt's do to wear down the opposition, just make your lies as open and public as possible. Everyone knows the authoritarians are lying but who can stop them?
03-28-2017 , 12:46 PM
LOL Donny citing a scheduling conflict as to why he won't throw out the first pitch on Opening Day. This is a dude willing to fly to FL or TN for airport rallies. Literally cannot handle getting booed. Sad!
03-28-2017 , 12:47 PM
Meanwhile over at the White Nationalist Happy Hour


https://twitter.com/Millennial_Dems/...54071440707589
03-28-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
I feel like they're rubbing it in our faces. Nunes isn't even trying to make this look like a real investigation any more. That's something authoritarian govt's do to wear down the opposition, just make your lies as open and public as possible. Everyone knows the authoritarians are lying but who can stop them?
What choice do they have though? There's a good chance people end up going to prison if they allow a full investigation. Their only chance is to obstruct and stall things in hopes it goes away.
03-28-2017 , 12:48 PM
Happy to see Greta sucking wind in the cable ratings. What a penis move by MSNBC to hire her. Sad!

Bring back Alex Wagner--smart, funny, and beautiful. Would watch her read the phone book.
03-28-2017 , 12:51 PM
Being prez sounds like a sweet deal. You have time to tweet, watch the news, golf, and spend hours in front of tv cameras.
03-28-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
LOL Donny citing a scheduling conflict as to why he won't throw out the first pitch on Opening Day. This is a dude willing to fly to FL or TN for airport rallies. Literally cannot handle getting booed. Sad!
Things like this do demonstrate that there is at least some understanding of reality among the Trump staff. Maybe they told themselves, "Well, it's a city thing. That's, um not where our base is. Also, too many immagrants/minorities playing baseball."

I mean, when are they going to get a win, of any kind...

Also, scuttlebutt has it that GOP won't have 50 votes to go nuclear over Gorsuch. It's a long game.
03-28-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Meanwhile over at the White Nationalist Happy Hour


https://twitter.com/Millennial_Dems/...54071440707589
AND WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH JAMES BROWN MOTHER****ER?
03-28-2017 , 12:55 PM
Well isn't it obvious lol
03-28-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Penis
PENIS
03-28-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Happy to see Greta sucking wind in the cable ratings. What a penis move by MSNBC to hire her. Sad!
I found out last night that this is her third gig on cable news. Next stop must be Russia Today.
03-28-2017 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Happy to see Greta sucking wind in the cable ratings. What a penis move by MSNBC to hire her. Sad!

Bring back Alex Wagner--smart, funny, and beautiful. Would watch her read the phone book.
I agree that I'd prefer hot models to present these news shows, or at least, idk, be a part of the shows somehow like maybe prerecord segments where they're standing in front of a green screen infographic in a tight short dress like Yanet Garcia. But I caught Greta's show on msnbc a couple times and, while boring, I thought she asked some good questions. She's not a democratic advocate, but she's not a conservative advocate either so I'm not bothered by her. Aside from, like I said, maybe they could show footage of bikini beachball in the corner, next to a countdown clock to Rachel's show.
03-28-2017 , 12:58 PM
I can't understand why Fox isn't burying MSNBC in cable ratings, just look at all the red in Tucker Carlson's title card graphic. In this historic week he's been mainly doing shows focused around crime by immigrants and minorities. It's what America needs!



Edit: interesting that Brett Bair, who does pretty straight news, is pulling better ratings than O'Reilly and Hannity.
03-28-2017 , 01:00 PM
FREE ABBY HUNTSMAN
03-28-2017 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Meanwhile over at the White Nationalist Happy Hour


https://twitter.com/Millennial_Dems/...54071440707589
Spoiler:
03-28-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Not sure how much credence to give it, but Louise Mensch was on Real Time this past week and said it was basically a matter of time before the Russia stuff gets fully exposed, and that it will likely be sooner than people think.
I don't trust this Louise Mensch person. There's something odd about her reporting and stance. She's definitely right-leaning, but hat's not what I'm talking about. She seems like she's a self-promoter first.

That doesn't mean she's wrong, of course.
03-28-2017 , 01:11 PM


https://twitter.com/rob_bennett/stat...64766026743813
03-28-2017 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
I can't understand why Fox isn't burying MSNBC in cable ratings, just look at all the red in Tucker Carlson's title card graphic. In this historic week he's been mainly doing shows focused around crime by immigrants and minorities. It's what America needs!



Edit: interesting that Brett Bair, who does pretty straight news, is pulling better ratings than O'Reilly and Hannity.
This is very dangerous stuff imo. Fear-based racial propaganda is devastatingly effective for ratings - and mobilizing people to do much worse.

Even sites like FoxNews and Breitbart know they're playing with fire if they go all-in on scaring white people (ala Stormfront or Council of Concerned Citizens). It's like they're sitting on a nuke and we hope they have the discretion not to use it.

      
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