This.

The draw to overturning ACA was even narrower than the draw to winning the electoral college. It's not a good measure of effectiveness of either Ryan or Trump.

I agree with you completely. We shouldn't allow ourselves to get discouraged just because Dems won't leap to accusations before having the evidence to back them up.

There's at least one person who cares deeply about Russia. And his name is Donald J. Trump.

when it first happened a month ago i thought blip, but its been a consistant rise for MSNBC. people are slowly waking up and the more the orange fuhrer pimps his state run media the less people will watch it.

I have like no way of proving it of course but this makes perfect sense to my left leaning brain. I feel like there's some significant % of people who will tune Trump out and actively avoid anything he personally recommends.

I mean part of me would like to think that there's some WOKEness out there among the FNC casualviewer who sees the open and blatant hypocrisy of downplaying Trump's scandals after hammering Hillary's scandals for years on end but then a bigger part of me laughs in the face of that other stupid part because it's probably wrong.

Every ****ing time I think it's time to drop the Russia stuff, Trump goes out there and keeps acting insanely guilty:

The Trump administration sought to block former acting attorney general Sally Yates from testifying to Congress in the House investigation into links between Russian officials and the Trump campaign, the Washington Post has learned, a position that is likely to further anger Democrats who have accused Republicans of trying to damage the probe.

According to a series of letters reviewed by The Post, Yates was notified earlier this month by the Justice Department that the administration considers a great deal of her possible testimony to be barred from discussion in a congressional hearing because the topics are covered by the presidential communication privilege.

http://www.dailyitem.com/news/trump-...7a56e4ec5.html

Trump/Ryan may have been drawing thinner on overturning the ACA than many realized, but the way it went down definitely says something about effectiveness of Ryan and Trump and the general disorganization of the GOP under a Trump administration.

They can do this, but no one will care. There is at least one UHC bill out there now that you've never heard of. Bernie is apparently cooking up a big single-payer bill that I've heard literally nothing about prior to searching for it specifically. But sure, let's ignore literal Watergate with Russian spies in favor of bills languishing in committee.

its time to intensify the coverage and scrutiny of whats happening with the Russia stuff, not decrease it. All of this recent behavior is going to lead to a independent investigation. Lindsey Graham this morning has hopped aboard that train.

I am happy the media has not had the Dvaut philosophy to beating these ****s. This is a president who is in office more than likely because he gamed the system and had help from the russians in some way. Why should we go after hearts and minds and policy when this **** should not be in office. By ignoring the russia stuff we simply acknowledge its ok that this rampant cheating happened and its cool, lets tell the country why republicans cant govern. Its the wrong way to go imo.

Ironically, Bernie has almost completely ignored the Russia stuff. I can't recall a single time he's even commented on it. Maybe he has idk but he certainly isn't shouting from the rooftops like for example Chris Coons. As far as the Senate goes, McCain and Graham have given it more lip service than Bernie.

He says he's pushing a Medicare for All bill but it never even gets a committee vote.

I think they need to get on TV and start explaining to everyone that the ACA fail parts were predicted and the solution is the public option that was stripped out of the original legislation. I think that goes further right now than Medicare for All, not much further but further than nowhere (maybe).

On Russia, Dems need to start a campaign to get Arnold Schwarzenegger appointed as independent prosecutor.

Bernie's a communist, obviously.

So, for the folks who think Russia stuff is in the news too much and that there should be more about outcomes,

1. Should Dems not be investigating Team Trump at all, and neither should they be putting pressure on all the obstacles constantly put up by said team? Because I definitely think the answer is no, even if their messaging to constituents should be more about outcomes, no one gets to the "coherent story" without an investigation.

2. If the answer to 1 is no, then is the main issue with the media picking what to report on or the Dems? Because I think there's at least some shared culpability.

There is an active and obvious coverup going on before our eyes. It would be foolish to ignore it.

Pretty sure everyone has said the investigation should go forward.

The main issue is that drawing all the attention to stories about procedural moves and endless comitte hearings are distracting Dems from bread-and-butter issues that are their real strength. Trump is out tweeting about creating jobs in Michigan. Dems are taking about procedural moves that block Sally Yeates from testifying in a subcommittee hearing or whatever. Also, even if this one trick to removing a horrible president works, the Russia stuff isn't really applicable to the rest of the Republican Party.

Basically, the issue is that the Dems have a lot of internal problems to fix if they don't want to repeat 2016, and focusing on Russia seems like a way for the establishment slappies to avoid tacking these problems.

Nunes really is effective!

Okay so they're not claiming executive privilege? Why is Yates not being allowed (by Nunes) to testify? SOMEONE give me a good reason.

Trump/Russia is not the left version of Benghazi. I have a family member that works in the CIA. From what I've been told, it's just a matter of putting together all the pieces and getting around the obstruction from the Trump Administration. Will it work? Who knows. But a lot of people are pissed at being painted as the enemy. The thing that Trump doesn't get (and Trumpkins for that matter) is when he badmouths the IC, FBI, CIA, etc., is he is badmouthing everyday Americans. These people are your friends and neighbors. They don't like being portrayed as enemies of the state because the orange messiah doesn't like what they do. Whether they find the smoking gun is a whole 'nother story but this isn't Benghazi.

Is this the same source that claims all 8 SCOTUS judges want to block Gorsuch from the bench?

Not sure how much credence to give it, but Louise Mensch was on Real Time this past week and said it was basically a matter of time before the Russia stuff gets fully exposed, and that it will likely be sooner than people think.

I do think there is a pretty solid likelihood that the Trump campaign discussed Russian sanctions in return for help in the election. Also a solid likelihood that most or all of the spy dossier/golden shower prostitutes etc. was mostly or 100% true. These are potentially earth-shattering political scandals. Of course Dems should keep hammering away on them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8eda8e4db747

Sure is. Anyway, I screwed up. Big deal. Look at you. You voted for the f'ing guy. LOL @ you forever and always.

At least I can admit I made a mistake. What's your excuse?

Yeah still not clear why some want to sweep all this under the rug because they can't see a clear narritive as things get worse by the day.

Trump publically asked for Russia to hack them. It's not hard to see there are legitimate problems between trump's administration and Russia. Almost everyone in his administration is on fire at this point.